Don’t Shave The Bumblebees
Wed, Jul 22, 2026 Year 3, Winter 3Codey and Al talk about Kabuto Park.
Timings
00:00:00: Theme Tune
00:00:30: Intro
00:01:58: What Have We Been Up To
00:29:50: Entomology Corner
01:18:25: Kabuto Park
01:42:44: Outro
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Transcript
Theme Tune
Intro
(30s) Codey:
Hello, farmers, and welcome to another episode of the harvest season.
(34s)
My name is Cody.
(36s) Al:
My name is Al.
(37s) Codey:
And we’re here today to talk about bugs.
(41s)
Woo!
(42s) Al:
Woo, bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs.
(44s) Codey:
Bugs, books, books.
(47s)
So every summer Al goes on this vacation slash thing that you do.
(53s)
Um, and we have a themed month that we kind of record um, haphazardly around like the time.
(1m 3s)
So we’re not, it’s not like in time, like where we are going to have news that we can talk about or something like that.
(1m 9s)
So we usually also try to have a theme with these things and I have joked that we should do bug month because new listeners may not know this, but I am an entomologist.
(1m 21s)
Um, I study bugs.
(1m 23s)
I talk about bugs a lot.
(1m 24s)
And so, and there are also a good amount of bug games.
(1m 29s)
So for Bug Month, this year, we will be covering 4 different bug games.
(1m 35s)
This episode, Al and I will be talking about Kabuto Park.
(1m 40s)
Um, which is a cute little game.
(1m 43s)
I enjoyed it.
(1m 44s)
Um, But we don’t have the news.
(1m 48s)
So instead of news, we’re going to have my entomology corner where I talk about entomology things for, however long, that goes.
(1m 57s)
Um, but before that, Al, uh, what have you been up to?
What Have We Been Up To
(2m 2s) Al:
What have I been up to?
(2m 3s)
Yes, so, uh, obviously, we’re not going to talk about like games and stuff because this is out of time, so things will be confusing if we’ve talk if we’re talking about things on different episodes.
(2m 11s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(2m 14s) Al:
So I was suggesting we talk about something we’ve seen recently.
(2m 18s)
I’ll tell you what I’ve seen recently that I would like to talk about, and that is Supergirl.
(2m 23s) Codey:
Okay.
(2m 24s)
I’m excited to hear your opinion of it.
(2m 26s) Al:
Yeah, um so I presume you’ve not seen it?
(2m 30s) Codey:
No, so I’m not super into, uh, here, superheroes and specifically Superman.
(2m 38s)
Um, I don’t know why.
(2m 40s)
And so I am interested here, because I know that the director did something a little different with this one, I think I’ve heard, right?
(2m 48s)
Okay, nope.
(2m 50s)
Okay, so a superhero movie?
(2m 51s) Al:
Well, yeah, no, okay, right.
(2m 53s)
So I think I, there’s, there’s different, um, opinions are mixed.
(3m)
Which, I, you know, okay, so I think it’s important to note that I do not think the all criticism of this film is misogynist.
(3m 6s)
It’s not.
(3m 6s)
There are, I get some of the some of the criticism that some people are saying.
(3m 11s)
In particular, the thing I do agree with most people on is that the film is quite kind of dull and gray and not particularly colourful, which is particularly frustrating considering the comic book series that this was based on was a very vibrant one.
(3m 25s)
So I do get that.
(3m 25s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(3m 27s) Al:
I understand that, and I agree with that.
(3m 29s)
I would have been nicer for it to be more viable.
(3m 31s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(3m 33s) Al:
Some people not really vibing with how the story works and stuff like that.
(3m 36s)
That’s fair.
(3m 37s)
I personally really liked it.
(3m 39s)
I thought it was a really good film.
(3m 41s)
I liked what they did with the story.
(3m 45s)
I liked the characters.
(3m 46s)
I think Millie Alcock as Supergirl is really good.
(3m 49s) Codey:
Mm.
(3m 49s) Al:
I think it’s kind of nicely kind of building on the universe a bit, right?
(3m 54s)
I enjoyed Superman last year.
(3m 55s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(3m 56s) Al:
I thought it was nice to have like a hopeful film for once.
(4m)
And I think this does a similar sort of thing while not trying to be exactly the same because obviously the thing about Supergirl is that she is, she grew up, well, in the comic books, she grew up on Krypton and it is complicated stuff, but in this film, it’s not quite the same.
(4m 1s) Codey:
Okay.
(4m 18s) Al:
She grows up in Argo City after Krypton has been destroyed, but the point is she still grows up through with Krypton culture, knowing people knowing her family and then seeing everyone die as she goes away to Earth, which is not something that Clark has to do.
(4m 27s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(4m 32s)
Mm-hmm.
(4m 34s) Al:
He is a baby when he lands on earth.
(4m 37s)
So he doesn’t know that.
(4m 38s)
He doesn’t experience that.
(4m 39s)
Not to say that that can’t be grief in of itself, but it’s different, right?
(4m 41s) Codey:
Yeah.
(4m 42s)
Yes.
(4m 43s) Al:
And so she’s never going to be exactly the same.
(4m 47s)
She’s always going to have different struggles, blah, blah, blah, blah.
(4m 50s)
But I think they did a really good job of still trying to be hopeful even with that difficulty and kind of showing you how she becomes Supergirl and accepts that kind of status, if you will.
(5m 3s)
I think they did that really nicely.
(5m 3s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(5m 4s) Al:
It’s not like she’s completely gone, oh, I’m fine now.
(5m 7s)
You know, you know, but still, I think they did a really good job of that.
(5m 10s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(5m 10s) Al:
So I really enjoyed it.
(5m 13s)
and I look forward to watching it again.
(5m 16s)
I think it’s going to be interesting because so Rona watches most superhero stuff with me now.
(5m 22s)
I’ve made her watch almost all the DC and Marvel stuff.
(5m 24s)
And so she really liked the CW Supergirl show.
(5m 24s) Codey:
Okay.
(5m 31s)
Mm-hmm.
(5m 33s) Al:
But the thing about that one is that Supergirl is basically just Superman, right?
(5m 36s) Codey:
Yeah.
(5m 36s) Al:
Like, yeah, she has the same backstory, but she doesn’t have any of the complications that come with that.
(5m 40s)
So it’s like her personality is basically just Superman, which is fine for what it was.
(5m 44s)
And I really like that interpretation as well.
(5m 46s)
It’s just it’s different.
(5m 47s)
So I was a little bit like, ooh, is Ron actually going to like this version of Supergirl?
(5m 52s)
Because like, you know, she gets drunk and she’s angry and blah, blah, blah.
(5m 56s)
But actually, I think the way that it’s done.
(5m 58s)
I think she’s going to really like what they do with her.
(5m 59s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(6m) Al:
Um, so I’m really uh, excited to see, um, what she thinks of that when we watch it.
(6m 8s)
And as always with these things, I’m, you know, looking at them going, oh, I’ll look forward to showing that to Craig in 4 years time.
(6m 16s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(6m 16s) Al:
Or whatever.
(6m 18s)
So yeah, I think I, as I, as I was saying, I understand some of the criticisms, I do think that some of the criticisms are misogynistic.
(6m 26s)
Like I saw, um, I saw a, someone trying to, it was perfect.
(6m 30s)
Let me read you the exact wording of this at the top of this review because it’s so stupid.
(6m 32s) Codey:
Okay.
(6m 35s) Al:
So it starts off with Supergirl’s failure, like every other female led movie failure will be blamed on misogyny, but I am here to tell you the real reason female led movies don’t succeed at the box office because they’re made with the idea that the movie is not for men.
(6m 50s)
They go far as to uglify the female lead so she doesn’t appeal to the male gaze.
(6m 56s)
Now, can we can we eat?
(6m 58s)
There’s so many things to talk about here.
(6m 59s)
First of all, I love the fact of being like, oh, we’re not misogynist and then immediately be misogynist.
(7m 5s)
Right?
(7m 6s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(7m 7s)
Mm-hmm.
(7m 7s) Al:
Like, oh, it’s a it’s because she’s ugly.
(7m 9s)
That’s misogynistic.
(7m 11s)
are you doing?
(7m 12s) Codey:
Yep.
(7m 12s) Al:
Two.
(7m 13s)
Um, no, she’s not.
(7m 15s)
What are you talking about?
(7m 16s) Codey:
Yeah.
(7m 16s)
Yeah.
(7m 17s) Al:
Are we looking at the same person?
(7m 20s)
What, what?
(7m 21s) Codey:
Yeah.
(7m 22s) Al:
I sent this review to Ronan, she was like, is she ugly?
(7m 22s) Codey:
That.
(7m 26s) Al:
And I’m like, no, what?
(7m 27s) Codey:
No.
(7m 28s) Al:
Three, even if she was, so what?
(7m 32s)
Do you have to be attracted to someone to care about them?
(7m 36s)
That’s what that tells me about you and I’m really worried about you as a human being.
(7m 39s) Codey:
Yep.
(7m 39s)
Yeah.
(7m 41s)
That like a story would not be interesting if the person, like any story is not interesting if the person is not attractive.
(7m 48s)
That’s like, ooh, big yikes.
(7m 49s) Al:
Yes.
(7m 52s)
So yeah, I do think there are, as with always, uh, you know, people who are being misogynistic about it.
(7m 59s)
I don’t think everyone is.
(8m)
There are, you know, quite a lot of, uh, film reviewers that I follow who I understand what they’re saying.
(8m 1s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(8m 7s) Al:
I don’t get it fully.
(8m 10s)
I don’t know why they, I’m not really understanding what it is they don’t like about the film other than the like visual direction, which I totally get.
(8m 17s)
Um, but I’m not saying they’re wrong about that.
(8m 18s) Codey:
Yeah.
(8m 21s) Al:
They’re just like, I disagree.
(8m 24s)
I don’t I don’t really get their their point there, but that’s, you know, different things are not everyone, not everything’s going to click with everyone.
(8m 30s)
And I’m a little bit sad that people haven’t enjoyed this as much, but I think I very much enjoy it.
(8m 34s) Codey:
Yeah.
(8m 35s) Al:
And most of the people who I respect have been saying, I don’t like it.
(8m 40s)
A few of them have been saying it’s bad.
(8m 42s)
That’s a whole other conversation, but they all say try it anyway because you might like it, right?
(8m 47s) Codey:
Yeah.
(8m 47s) Al:
And I think that is the key difference. I think if you’re if you’re reading someone’s review and they say, it’s not for me, they’re probably not being misogynistic, right?
(8m 50s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(8m 57s)
Mm-hmm.
(8m 57s) Al:
Because they’re probably like, I didn’t like it, but that’s fine.
(8m 59s)
Whereas the people who are being misogynistic, they’ll all be like, it’s terrible.
(9m 2s)
Don’t go see it.
(9m 4s) Codey:
Yeah.
(9m 6s) Al:
There’s very few films that I will say are actively bad and that people shouldn’t go see.
(9m 10s)
I actually quite like enjoying bad films sometimes.
(9m 14s) Codey:
Yeah.
(9m 15s)
You just have to, it’s good to go into it informed sometimes if it is something that is probably going to be bad because you might be in a mood of like, I want to watch good, good cinematography today and it’s like, mm, probably shouldn’t watch this movie then.
(9m 20s) Al:
Yeah.
(9m 27s) Codey:
Um, but yeah, that that kind of attitude is just like…
(9m 27s) Al:
Yeah.
(9m 34s)
We, we have to get this every single time.
(9m 36s)
I don’t think that all of the problems with female led movies are because of misogyny.
(9m 40s)
Absolutely not.
(9m 40s) Codey:
Right.
(9m 40s) Al:
Captain Marvel made a $1000000000, right?
(9m 43s)
Like, it’s not as simple as saying people are misogynistic and therefore they don’t succeed.
(9m 44s) Codey:
Right.
(9m 49s) Al:
They can, and they have.
(9m 50s)
But it is just, it is another one of those things where it’s like when you have conversations about bigotry.
(9m 57s)
People love to like flatten it down into, oh, well, this thing is successful, therefore there’s no bigotry and you’re like, but that’s not how that works, right?
(10m 5s) Codey:
Nope.
(10m 5s) Al:
Like, you, you, you know, Barack Obama becoming president and people going, oh, there’s no racism anymore.
(10m 12s)
It’s like, no, that’s no, like people were and are racist towards Obama, that was something he had to overcome.
(10m 21s)
And isn’t it amazing that he got to that and we don’t need to talk about, whether he was good or bad at the job.
(10m 25s) Codey:
Right.
(10m 25s) Al:
That is not the point.
(10m 26s)
But like he managed to overcome those things and still do it and isn’t that incredible?
(10m 31s)
And I would say the same thing about something like Captain Marvel.
(10m 33s)
This film, Supergirl’s not going to do well, sadly.
(10m 37s)
But I think it is good personally, and I think that lots of people will enjoy it having watched it.
(10m 44s)
And so that is my thing.
(10m 47s)
And I really hope my biggest worry is that they go, oh, well, people don’t really care about Supergirl and then they just kind of like write the character out of future stories, which I think would be really sad.
(10m 57s)
I think the part of the problem with superhero films just now is that the 1st superhero films in franchises don’t tend to do particularly well, it’s when you continue doing them and you continue making good films and you make more of them, then they, like the 1st Iron Man,
(11m 11s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(11m 14s) Al:
I mean, it was fine, but it didn’t make a lot of money, right?
(11m 17s) Codey:
Yeah.
(11m 17s) Al:
Like they weren’t making lots and lots of money until they did later.
(11m 20s)
until they had, you know, multiple sequels, right?
(11m 21s) Codey:
Yeah.
(11m 21s)
I ironed it out, yeah.
(11m 24s) Al:
Like, only one, only one of the Marvel films made over 2 billion.
(11m 29s)
Now, a lot of made them made over a billion, but that wasn’t like none of them in the 1st phase did until the Avengers, I don’t think.
(11m 35s)
So obviously you could, you know, there’s diminishing returns, now they’re getting less and less, but you could argue that’s because they’re worse, right?
(11m 36s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(11m 44s) Al:
So like the idea that like Superman and Supergirl were going to make a $1000000000 was always ridiculous idea because like people need to be convinced of something.
(11m 44s) Codey:
Yeah.
(11m 54s)
Yeah, I, we were just talking about this the other day about how it’s also, there’s also kind of like superhero fatigue that any movie that is quote unquote worth seeing in theatre nowadays, like to us, it seems like to my husband and I,
(12m 10s)
It seems like it’s usually one of the Marvel movies.
(12m 13s)
Um, with some exceptions being like some of the horror movies that have been coming out recently that have been apparently very good in the theatre.
(12m 21s)
Um, which takes me on another tangent of people kind of saying the same thing.
(12m 25s)
Like I saw a news article of, you know, people, they really shouldn’t be making so many horror movies.
(12m 31s)
A lot of us don’t like horror.
(12m 32s) Al:
Hmm.
(12m 33s) Codey:
Like it’s, it’s, uh, insulting to us that we have to see like so many of these horror movies, like in the mainstream.
(12m 40s)
And I’m like, again, not everything has to be for you.
(12m 45s)
Like, you can, you are allowed to say, oh, that was good, not for me though.
(12m 50s)
and everyone should go and make their own decision.
(12m 53s)
Um, but yeah, the, the other stuff that’s been in theatres lately is just, I, there’s not like the drive to the theatre that I feel like there was 20 years ago.
(13m 4s)
Um, it’s also way more expensive because of course it is.
(13m 8s)
But, like, we had really big series like 20 years ago that were coming out and were being made.
(13m 16s)
And so every few years you knew that you were going to go into the theatre.
(13m 19s)
And I feel like the majority of the series that are being made today are superhero.
(13m 24s)
So if you’re not into superheroes, Trug, you know?
(13m 29s) Al:
Yeah, okay, so there’s a lot in that, right?
(13m 32s) Codey:
Yeah, correct.
(13m 32s) Al:
Um, I think that there are many things you could argue about um, why people don’t go to the cinemas as much.
(13m 42s)
I think the 1st thing to say is it’s not that they’re not going to the cinema.
(13m 46s)
They are going to the cinema and the cinema still makes a lot of money.
(13m 50s)
Now, granted, the total amount of money, the box office makes per year is down on 2019 and the 10 years before that, roughly, um, because obviously COVID massive problem.
(13m 51s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(14m 4s)
Yeah.
(14m 8s)
Yeah.
(14m 9s) Al:
But I don’t think it’s as simple as any, as saying it’s because of COVID or it’s because of bad films or anything like that.
(14m 16s)
Because like generally it’s been going up since COVID as well.
(14m 20s)
It’s not hit the same levels that it had, but it’s not far off.
(14m 23s)
So if I take the number in 2025 and I take the number in 2019, uh, the 2025 number was 76% of the 2019 number.
(14m 36s)
So there’s a 25% gap there.
(14m 39s)
I’m not saying that’s nothing.
(14m 39s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(14m 40s) Al:
That is obviously a lot of money, but in terms of like, I think the way that people talk about it makes it sound way worse than that, right?
(14m 40s) Codey:
Right.
(14m 49s)
Yeah.
(14m 49s)
And I mean, for myself, I think it’s the there haven’t been movies that have been appealing to me.
(14m 56s)
So, and I think that that is, because another thing that’s been coming out a lot are live action remakes of Disney movies, which I’m not interested in.
(15m 5s) Al:
Yeah.
(15m 8s)
Yeah, but they make a lot of money.
(15m 8s) Codey:
So.
(15m 9s)
Yeah, I’m sure, well, and they’re going to make,
(15m 9s) Al:
Right?
(15m 11s)
This is this is the this is the thing, because we’re going to talk
(15m 12s) Codey:
yeah.
(15m 13s) Al:
talk about Disney and Pixar as well, because like generally kids or family films make a lot of money.
(15m 19s)
Right?
(15m 19s) Codey:
Yes.
(15m 20s) Al:
Like the thing, if you look at the, like the top 20 films or so.
(15m 24s)
Half of them are superhero films.
(15m 26s)
Half of them are kids’ films, and then there’s Avatar for some reason.
(15m 27s) Codey:
Yeah.
(15m 31s) Al:
Which is confusing.
(15m 33s)
Um, I will never understand why that makes so much money.
(15m 34s) Codey:
Yeah.
(15m 37s) Al:
Um, but, again, not for me, that’s fine.
(15m 41s)
I say that.
(15m 42s)
I actually enjoyed the 3rd one.
(15m 43s)
The 1st one was fine.
(15m 44s) Codey:
Oh, you did you?
(15m 46s) Al:
The 2nd one was boring.
(15m 47s)
The 3rd one was, I think, the best of the Avatar films.
(15m 50s)
Um, I mean, that’s not a high bar, but… I think I think is the best one.
(15m 51s) Codey:
Okay.
(15m 55s)
Yeah.
(15m 56s) Al:
But yeah, I just, I find these, and it’s, it’s, there’s so many reasons why, you know, 2025 made 75% of 2019.
(16m 7s)
But also like, that’s still a lot of money.
(16m 9s)
Right?
(16m 10s) Codey:
Yeah.
(16m 10s) Al:
Like, We do live in this world where everything has to be increasing all the time forever.
(16m 17s)
And, well, yeah, that’s the thing.
(16m 18s) Codey:
Has to be?
(16m 21s) Al:
It’s a bizarre idea, but that is what, for some reason, capitalism has to have.
(16m 25s)
And so even if it was making as much as it did in 29, that wouldn’t be enough.
(16m 30s)
It’s got to be more.
(16m 31s) Codey:
Yeah.
(16m 31s) Al:
And so yeah, I think it’s a whole bunch of things.
(16m 35s)
I think the part of the thing is that people we might be moving into a period of fewer people wanting to watch superhero films, possibly.
(16m 42s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(16m 42s) Al:
I’m not going to say anything until next year because I think part of the thing is this year is going to, if this year isn’t the big year for superhero films.
(16m 51s)
I don’t know what year is because we’ve got Spider-Man and we’ve got Avengers.
(16m 54s)
If Spider-Man and Avengers don’t make over a billion, then yeah, sure, Marvel’s really got to change something fundamentally.
(16m 55s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(17m 1s)
Mm-hmm.
(17m 1s) Al:
Um, but I suspect they will.
(17m 3s)
I suspect they’ll make a lot of money.
(17m 5s) Codey:
No, I’m sure, I’m sure those will, but like, there’s so many other little offshoot, like,
(17m 11s) Al:
But they never made a lot of money.
(17m 12s)
That’s the thing.
(17m 13s) Codey:
The the offshoot movies.
(17m 14s) Al:
Yeah, that like, you know, it’s not like every Marvel movie or every superhero movie made a $1000000000
(17m 23s) Codey:
No, but I still thought that they made good money.
(17m 26s) Al:
Some of them did, some of them didn’t.
(17m 27s)
Like, it’s, I think this is the thing is like, we have this viewpoint of like, oh,
(17m 31s)
everything makes a lot of money.
(17m 33s)
There are only 16 superhero films ever that have made over a 1000000000 dollars.
(17m 39s)
(17m 40s) Codey:
Mhm.
(17m 40s) Al:
Yeah, a lot of them are Marvel ones, but not all of them.
(17m 43s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(17m 43s) Al:
And there are a lot of films that haven’t made anywhere near that.
(17m 48s)
So, like, it’s a complicated story, right?
(17m 48s) Codey:
Yeah.
(17m 52s) Al:
Like there’s not, it’s not a simple answer.
(17m 53s) Codey:
Yeah.
(17m 54s)
Yep.
(17m 54s) Al:
Um, but, like, you know, let’s take, for example, Doctor Strange came out in 2016.
(18m 1s)
So after 4 years after the original Avengers, um, and it made 600 million.
(18m 9s)
Now, you may be like, oh, that’s a lot of money.
(18m 12s)
It depends who you ask.
(18m 13s)
Well, that’s a lot of money.
(18m 14s) Codey:
Well, it also, how much did it, how much did it take to make too?
(18m 15s) Al:
Oh, that is a complicated question.
(18m 17s) Codey:
So, because that’s that’s how I, so.
(18m 18s) Al:
It made a profit.
(18m 20s)
It made a profit, but the problem is that making a profit is not enough for these people quite often.
(18m 26s) Codey:
Yeah.
(18m 26s)
Because, like, these numbers, like a 1000000000 dollars.
(18m 29s)
Like that just doesn’t, it doesn’t resonate with me.
(18m 31s)
I’m like, okay, that’s a number.
(18m 33s)
Like, I don’t, I don’t know.
(18m 35s)
I think it’s more like the the vibe, like, of the fact, I don’t know.
(18m 40s)
So that’s I’m getting into feelings, not facts, so it’s not.
(18m 43s) Al:
Yeah, well, that and that’s and that I think is part of the problem, right?
(18m 46s) Codey:
Yeah.
(18m 46s) Al:
Part of the problem is that a lot of these things are discussed based on people’s feelings.
(18m 52s)
And when you actually start to look at the numbers, the picture is more complicated.
(18m 52s) Codey:
Yeah.
(18m 58s) Al:
Um, So, the, the, the MCU has made a total of 32000000000 dollars, which is an average of 870000000 per film.
(18m 58s) Codey:
Oh, yeah.
(19m 13s) Al:
But considering one of them is like the 2nd highest crossing film of all time and made nearly 3000000000,
(19m 13s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(19m 19s) Al:
That skews, that was Avengers Endgame.
(19m 20s) Codey:
Which one’s that?
(19m 21s)
Okay, that’s what I thought.
(19m 22s) Al:
That skews it massively.
(19m 25s)
So…
(19m 29s)
Uh, they have been going down.
(19m 32s)
It’s it’s un undebatable.
(19m 35s)
They have been going down.
(19m 35s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(19m 36s) Al:
And part of that is because people don’t like the films as much and part of that may well because people are being bored of these same stories.
(19m 42s)
Part of it might be one of the other complications I see is that they start to introduce new characters.
(19m 43s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(19m 49s) Al:
Those films don’t do as well as the previous ones because they’re new characters and people need to get used to them, but then they abandon those characters when they don’t make the lots of money and they go back to the old characters, but people are like, we’re done with those characters.
(19m 57s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(20m) Al:
And so it’s like, actually, you need to keep working on the new characters so people actually care.
(20m 5s) Codey:
Yeah.
(20m 6s)
I think my struggle with it is like, it’s always, it’s like usually the same.
(20m 11s)
It’s the same story, different skin is my, it gets very formulaic after a while.
(20m 16s)
And I’m, I, yeah, it can’t.
(20m 17s) Al:
It can be.
(20m 18s)
Depends what you’re watching, right?
(20m 20s) Codey:
Yeah, but.
(20m 20s) Al:
Like, have you seen Wonderman, for example?
(20m 22s) Codey:
No.
(20m 23s) Al:
Love that show.
(20m 24s)
That show was excellent.
(20m 26s)
The problem is no one’s seen it.
(20m 27s)
And yet, I’m not saying that this is people’s fault, right?
(20m 28s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(20m 33s)
Mm-hmm.
(20m 33s) Al:
Like, why was that made into a show rather than a film, which would probably have garnered more attention.
(20m 38s)
I don’t know, would it have worked as a film?
(20m 40s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(20m 41s) Al:
I don’t know
(20m 41s)
Possibly, I liked it.
(20m 43s)
I thought it was a great series.
(20m 44s)
I think it worked really well as a series.
(20m 46s)
But the thing is that, yeah, sure.
(20m 48s)
If you look at certain, if you watch like the big things, then yeah, everything’s going to feel the same because the big things are all about.
(20m 54s)
Here are all these characters that we like, fighting a baddie.
(20m 57s)
Which is what this year’s one is going to be.
(20m 58s) Codey:
Yeah.
(21m) Al:
But if you watch everything,
(21m 1s) Codey:
Yeah.
(21m 2s) Al:
There’s so many different stories.
(21m 4s)
And yeah, I’m not saying that that’s an excuse.
(21m 6s)
I’m not saying it’s your fault that you don’t like them, right?
(21m 9s) Codey:
Right, right, right
(21m 9s) Al:
I’m just, it’s one of these things where it’s like, what, yes, if you, you know, quite often this gets compared to, say, the, um, the Westerns, right?
(21m 20s)
Because there was a period of time where Westerns were like what superhero films are now.
(21m 24s)
They’re everywhere and people were fed up with them.
(21m 25s) Codey:
Yeah.
(21m 26s) Al:
And the thing is that, again, if you watched all them, you’re probably like, oh, there are some that are great and there are some that have these amazing stories.
(21m 34s) Codey:
Yeah.
(21m 34s) Al:
But if you were fed up of the mediocre ones, you’d stop watching them because you feel like everything’s the same if you just watched the like the ones by the big directors.
(21m 43s)
They’re mostly going to be formulaic because it’s the big companies paying lots of money to please cash in on this. Whereas if you watch all of the things, you’re going to find some that are great, but not everybody can do that.
(21m 49s) Codey:
Yeah.
(21m 53s) Al:
People don’t have the time for that, right?
(21m 54s)
Like I watch so many films.
(21m 55s) Codey:
There’s well.
(21m 56s)
Yeah.
(21m 56s) Al:
People don’t have the time for that, but it means I get to see really great stuff.
(22m)
It also means I watch really terrible stuff as well.
(22m) Codey:
Yeah.
(22m 2s)
Well, and so the other aspect of this is not is past films, like to the TV series and the mini shorts, and like you have to watch all of these things to be so that when you go watch the next Avengers movie, things make sense because…
(22m 9s) Al:
Yep.
(22m 18s)
Yeah, but I don’t think you do.
(22m 19s) Codey:
Oh, some of those Avengers movies, I was like, I don’t get like why there’s this tension here and someone was like, all you had to watch Scarlet Witch or whatever. And I’m like, okay, but I didn’t. Or what, no, what was the?
(22m 28s) Al:
There was no Scarlet Witch thing, but anyway.
(22m 32s)
I think I think the thing is that like, sometimes we just need to accept not knowing everything.
(22m 33s) Codey:
Yeah, what was.
(22m 36s) Al:
Like, because I think it’s, it’s, it’s the same.
(22m 37s) Codey:
Yeah. I’m, I’m not good with that.
(22m 41s) Al:
It’s the same thing where people complain about plot holes that aren’t plot holes, they’re just unexplained things, right?
(22m 45s)
Like people will talk about, oh, there were so many plot holes in this.
(22m 46s) Codey:
Yeah.
(22m 49s) Al:
Why did this happen?
(22m 50s)
How did that happen?
(22m 50s)
It’s like, no, no, them not explaining it is not a plot hole.
(22m 53s)
Them not explaining it is not telling you everything because sometimes you don’t need to know everything.
(22m 56s) Codey:
Yeah.
(22m 58s) Al:
And a plot hole is when they’re explicitly contradicting the rules that they’ve set out, right?
(22m 59s) Codey:
Yeah.
(23m 4s) Al:
That a pothole.
(23m 5s)
A plot hole is not, although you didn’t explain why this person would do that.
(23m 5s) Codey:
Yeah.
(23m 8s) Al:
No, some people are stupid, make stupid decisions, and that’s why we have films.
(23m 11s)
If we didn’t have people making stupid decisions.
(23m 13s)
We would never have a horror film.
(23m 14s)
Right? Like, that’s that’s an entire whole genre of people making stupid decisions.
(23m 19s) Codey:
Yeah.
(23m 20s) Al:
The genre isn’t based on the idea of a plot hole.
(23m 25s) Codey:
Yeah.
(23m 26s) Al:
Yeah, I, like, I, I think I, I, it’s ironic that it’s James Gunn that’s saying this, but I generally agree with what James Gunn said, is that I don’t think there’s superhero fatigue.
(23m 35s)
I think there’s mediocre movie fatigue.
(23m 38s) Codey:
Okay, yeah.
(23m 38s) Al:
And.
(23m 39s) Codey:
That would also, yes.
(23m 41s) Al:
And sometimes people feel a little bit talked down to when they’re like, oh, that doesn’t mean that I don’t like superhero films.
(23m 46s)
Okay, sure.
(23m 47s)
Yeah, that’s fine.
(23m 48s)
But also, we’re definitely going to see Spider-Man and the Avengers make a lot of money this year.
(23m 52s) Codey:
Yeah.
(23m 53s) Al:
So, maybe we want, maybe I’ll be wrong, and if I’m wrong, then there’s something else to it, but I highly doubt that they’re not going to.
(24m 5s) Codey:
Yeah.
(24m 5s)
I have so much more I could say, but this was not the…
(24m 13s)
I could talk so much more about.
(24m 16s)
Uh, but we should probably…
(24m 18s) Al:
And the highest grossing film of last year was a Minecraft movie, so…
(24m 21s) Codey:
Oh, that is shocking to me, but kids, so maybe not.
(24m 27s)
I guess like what was the competition?
(24m 32s) Al:
Depends who you are.
(24m 34s)
Like, so, oh, goodness, right.
(24m 35s) Codey:
Yeah.
(24m 38s) Al:
Give me a minute.
(24m 39s)
Give me a minute.
(24m 40s)
Let me find the worldwide.
(24m 42s)
There we go.
(24m 42s)
Worldwide 2025.
(24m 45s)
So the top 10.
(24m 46s)
So Minecraft movie is only top in America.
(24m 48s)
It wasn’t top worldwide.
(24m 49s) Codey:
Hmm.
(24m 50s) Al:
So top worldwide, and this is where things are fantastic, was Niza 2.
(24m 55s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(24m 55s) Al:
Which is a Chinese film.
(24m 56s) Codey:
Yeah.
(24m 56s) Al:
That made over 2 billion.
(24m 59s)
The 2nd top was Zootopia 2.
(25m 2s)
Which made one.800000000
(25m 4s)
And then Avatar Fire and Ash made one.
(25m 7s)
5 billion.
(25m 9s)
The live action, Lilo and Stitch made a 1000000000 for some stupid reason, and then a Minecraft movie made just under a 1000000000 and then, well, yeah, I mean, yeah.
(25m 17s) Codey:
Because kids’ movies.
(25m 21s)
Parents don’t really care if the movie’s good.
(25m 23s)
They just take their kid to it because it’s something to take their kid to.
(25m 26s) Al:
Sure, but Zootopia 2 was very good.
(25m 30s) Codey:
Oh yes, see, I didn’t see it.
(25m 30s) Al:
I think the thing is that like, yes, they don’t particularly care, but if they hear that a film is good, they’re going to prioritise that one.
(25m 37s)
And Zootopia 2 was very good.
(25m 37s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(25m 39s) Al:
And I think Leo Stitch was because, oh, I want my kids to like what I like.
(25m 45s) Codey:
Well, have them watch Lilo and Stitch then.
(25m 48s)
The, the, the original.
(25m 50s) Al:
Look, you’re not gonna, you’re not, like, I’m not arguing against you.
(25m 53s)
I agree.
(25m 54s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(25m 54s) Al:
And then there was Jurassic World rebirth, uh, which was fine.
(25m 59s)
Then the Demon Slayer film.
(26m 2s) Codey:
Yeah.
(26m 2s) Al:
I did not realise that made so much money.
(26m 4s) Codey:
People, people like their Demon Slayer, man.
(26m 4s) Al:
I made 800 millions.
(26m 10s)
Uh, then the live action how to train your dragon.
(26m 13s) Codey:
No.
(26m 13s) Al:
Uh, F1.
(26m 16s) Codey:
Yeah, people like that.
(26m 16s) Al:
Uh, And then Superman.
(26m 17s) Codey:
Okay.
(26m 18s) Al:
And then you’ve got Mission Impossible, Wicked for Good, Fantastic Four, Detective Chinatown, 1900.
(26m 25s)
Never heard of that.
(26m 27s)
It looks like it might have been a Chinese one.
(26m 29s)
But weirdly set in America, whatever.
(26m 30s) Codey:
Okay.
(26m 33s)
That’s fine.
(26m 34s)
We have plenty of American movies that are set elsewhere.
(26m 36s) Al:
The conjuring, dead to right, Captain America Brave New World, that was an actively bad film.
(26m 42s)
The housemade, Thunderbolts, and Sinners.
(26m 45s)
I think there were a lot of good films last year.
(26m 47s) Codey:
See, but sinners, sinners was so good.
(26m 49s) Al:
Sinners was very good.
(26m 51s)
Very good.
(26m 52s)
Yeah, one of my top films.
(26m 55s) Codey:
Yeah.
(26m 55s)
Uh…
(26m 58s) Al:
In fact, it was my 2nd top.
(27m 3s) Codey:
don’t have a list.
(27m 5s) Al:
Shock.
(27m 5s) Codey:
I watched Rain Man today.
(27m 8s)
I had never seen that.
(27m 10s)
It was good.
(27m 10s) Al:
I have not seen.
(27m 12s) Codey:
It’s Tom Cruise and Dennis Hoffman and Tom Cruise is like really arrogant and gets… Yeah, pretty much.
(27m 19s) Al:
So he’s just cast…
(27m 22s) Codey:
And he has like a lot of beef with his dad, but then his dad dies and he goes to the will reading and he gets the card that his dad never let him drive and his rose bushes. And the rest of everything goes to another person.
(27m 39s)
And Tom Cruise is like, who’s that?
(27m 42s)
Like who else could poss- my dad possibly give things to?
(27m 47s)
Like, I was his only kid.
(27m 48s)
Wife passed away, never remarried.
(27m 51s)
What the heck?
(27m 52s)
And he ends up like sneakily finding out that it’s a man in a mental institution who ends up being his older brother.
(27m 59s)
And he kidnaps him to try and get the money because he’s like, his dad had like $3000000 and he wants some of that money and he ends up, yeah, it’s it’s interesting.
(28m 3s) Al:
Oh.
(28m 13s) Codey:
But then while he has his brother, his brother is severely autistic.
(28m 17s)
Um, and like, uh, just very perceptive and like knows can count really high numbers and like all that, like just can remember a lot of things.
(28m 28s)
But is also very has his routines, has to do everything the same way.
(28m 35s)
And so it ends up that the brother, that Tom Cruise basically like learns how to be not as much of a dick.
(28m 44s)
Um, and in the end, just wants his brother, just wants to be in his brother’s life and doesn’t care as much about the money.
(28m 51s)
But it was very interesting to watch.
(28m 54s)
He takes him to Vegas and has him count cards.
(28m 57s)
Because he can remember like all of the things.
(28m 57s) Al:
Okay.
(29m 1s) Codey:
Yeah.
(29m 1s) Al:
Ah, yes, the the autism is a superpower story.
(29m 5s) Codey:
Yes.
(29m 6s) Al:
Classic.
(29m 8s) Codey:
Yes.
(29m 8s) Al:
Okay.
(29m 9s) Codey:
Um, it does show, it does show like the downsides.
(29m 12s)
Like, it shows that that, like, it’s been, and that it basically shows it as, like, his brother is manipulating and using him to, for this gift that he has.
(29m 20s)
Um,
(29m 22s)
to be able to, like, count cards really effectively.
(29m 26s)
Um, but then there’s the other aspects of it, of when they’re in.
(29m 30s)
Yeah, it’s it’s it’s worth a watch.
(29m 33s)
I would watch it again, 10 out of 10.
(29m 36s) Al:
Fair enough.
(29m 36s) Codey:
Um, okay.
(29m 38s)
So that was what we’ve been up to.
(29m 42s)
What we’ve been watching and some really good conversation about, and discussion about movies.
(29m 42s) Al:
Woo!
(29m 48s)
Woo.
(29m 49s) Codey:
Um, okay, so for my entomology corner, this 1st time, I kind of wanted to go over some resources that folks can use if they want to learn more about bugs, get involved in science in their area or get supplies for bugs.
Entomology Corner
(30m 7s) Codey:
Uh, and kind of go over the beginning of, um, the taxonomy and systematics or the naming and the describing and the organising of groups of of, uh, I started with arthropods, which is the greater, um, grouping that insects or within.
(30m 25s)
Um, but I 1st wanted to start off by answering.
(30m 28s) Al:
Wait, Cody, Cody, you haven’t introduced this section properly, because this is Cody’s entomology corner.
(30m 29s) Codey:
Yeah.
(30m 33s)
Oh.
(30m 34s)
Yes.
(30m 34s) Al:
Because obviously we’re not going to have news.
(30m 37s)
So instead, Cody’s going to do the entomology corner.
(30m 40s) Codey:
Woo.
(30m 42s)
Sorry, I thought I already said that.
(30m 45s)
Um.
(30m 45s) Al:
You might have mentioned it in the intro, but like, there you go.
(30m 47s) Codey:
Okay, yeah, so this is Cody’s entomology corner.
(30m 48s) Al:
We’ve got to know.
(30m 49s)
Cody just going straight into talking about bugs.
(30m 51s) Codey:
Bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs.
(30m 53s)
You can’t stop me from talking about bugs, but you can, I can forget.
(30m 55s) Al:
I’m actively encouraging it, Cody.
(30m 57s) Codey:
I can forget to introduce the bug section.
(31m)
Um, so yeah, we’re going to do those things, but 1st I wanted to like answer any questions that either Al has.
(31m 1s) Al:
Yeah.
(31m 9s) Codey:
And then I asked in the slack as well.
(31m 11s)
So if you are not already in the slack and you have a burning bug question.
(31m 15s)
Get in the slack.
(31m 16s)
Uh, become become a patron, and you can ask a bug question, then I will answer.
(31m 21s)
Um, Al, did you have any questions or?
(31m 25s) Al:
Well, the, the, the, behind the scenes stuff is that Cody warned me about this literally 10 minutes before recording.
(31m 31s)
So no, I don’t have any fun questions.
(31m 32s) Codey:
Well, and I love how you say warned you about it.
(31m 35s)
I literally just wrote, answer any bug questions that Al has in the show notes and then you were like, 0 no.
(31m 39s) Al:
Okay, I read the show notes 10 minutes before.
(31m 42s) Codey:
No, and I like wrote it like 5 minutes before you put a note on it.
(31m 48s)
So no, that’s fine if you don’t have any bug questions.
(31m 50s) Al:
I don’t have any bug questions now, other than just why bugs?
(31m 50s) Codey:
Um, Because, well, you mean why, like, why I study bugs or just why bugs exist?
(31m 53s) Al:
Why bugs?
(31m 55s)
Why, why, why are bugs?
(31m 57s) Codey:
So bugs are because they uh, reproduce very, very quickly and have the ability to uh, adapt to almost any environmental niche that exists or niche, however you want to say that, uh, that exists in the world.
(32m 15s) Al:
I wasn’t saying anything.
(32m 17s) Codey:
No, I mean, I just wanted to say, because people say it different ways.
(32m 20s)
Um, And so they’re very adaptable and they reproduce very quickly so they can actually evolve pretty quickly as well.
(32m 28s)
Um, and that is why we have so many species of bugs.
(32m 33s)
slash arthropods because it is just a very effective, um, strategy.
(32m 41s)
And they fill all kinds of roles.
(32m 43s)
They’re they’re not only things to be eaten by other organisms.
(32m 47s)
They also consume other organisms, they also farm other organisms.
(32m 51s)
They manipulate each other.
(32m 54s)
They, yeah, they just do so many cool things.
(32m 57s)
And we will talk about, uh, a lot of that from a very top-down, like broad view.
(33m 3s)
I’ll get into some specifics on some groups that I’m really passionate about, but some of them were probably just going to like whiz right by.
(33m 10s)
But, Cats question.
(33m 12s) Al:
Thanks.
(33m 14s) Codey:
So today’s question of the day, cat, uh, with barely any, um, warning, uh, because I also just put, I just put, put your butt questions in a thread here. And, within like 20 minutes,
(33m 24s) Al:
Yeah, some people can do that, apparently.
(33m 32s) Codey:
Cat had a question.
(33m 32s)
Cat says, I saw a video a few days ago of a bee.
(33m 36s)
I don’t remember which species problem solving by moving a sphere over to use it like a ladder or step so that it could reach a food source.
(33m 43s)
How intelligent are most bees and bugs in general.
(33m 47s)
Uh, and they append it with also not sure if the video was real, I didn’t look into it.
(33m 52s)
Um, so it is real.
(33m 55s)
So I immediately knew what they were talking about because there is a lot that is being done in the realm of, um, insect cognition and
(34m 6s)
intellect and learning.
(34m 7s)
And bumblebees are like the poster child for it.
(34m 12s)
So that is what is being mostly used for a lot of these studies.
(34m 15s)
And it is their ability to learn, um, and to tool use, and some of them actually can like, not explain it, but they, they are able to watch another bee perform a task and then like learn that they can do that themselves.
(34m 31s)
They will then try and do it themselves.
(34m 33s) Al:
That’s cleverer than some humans.
(34m 35s) Codey:
Yes.
(34m 36s)
So how intelligent are most bees and bugs in general?
(34m 40s)
So clearly intelligence is a hard thing to grab, to like map, like what do you, what does that mean?
(34m 47s)
Um, they will all respond to stimuli and they will all, um, you know, do what’s in their instinct, instincts and and be able to problem solve a little bit in their own day to day.
(35m 2s)
But with what we consider intelligence, uh, like this tool use that this bee was doing and learning.
(35m 9s)
There’s a good amount of them that can do it.
(35m 12s)
And they’re all over the place that all over the world and all over the taxonomically, like there’s spiders that can create catapults.
(35m 21s)
There’s spiders that fish.
(35m 23s)
Um, there’s, uh, these bees being able.
(35m 30s)
I mean, just any, just honeybees in general, uh, like navigating using the dance to navigate and explain to their sisters, like where food is is nuts.
(35m 41s)
Um, and it’s not something that we understood until like 200 years ago.
(35m 45s)
Um, So in this video, it is, it is real, um, and you, you do see a little bumblebee and she, they show 2 different ones.
(35m 55s)
I posted a link in science.
(35m 57s)
It’s from sciencenews.org, and it shows 1st a B in like a circular chamber, and she rolls a ball over to an area that has nectar available and she, because she can’t reach it on her own.
(36m 12s)
And so she rolls the ball over there and stands on the ball to lick the nectar source.
(36m 18s)
And then the next part of that video.
(36m 20s)
There’s a rectangular, um, space that she is put into that has some, uh, like nooks and crannies, like kind of like a maze. And she goes into the arena.
(36m 34s)
We usually call them arenas.
(36m 35s)
She goes into it and she goes and figures out where the blue nectar space is and then realises she can’t reach it and she immediately goes and grabs the ball and navigates the ball over to where the thing is and then steps on top of it.
(36m 50s)
So this is, I mean, it’s, I don’t know how they’re teaching them to do this, but it doesn’t, it’s not surprising to me.
(36m 58s)
Um, bees have to do a lot of different things in their day to day, uh, communicating with each other and, um, collecting resources and stuff that they have a more of an intellectual load than I think most people understand.
(37m 14s)
And I mean, we’re all going to learn how to do something for food, right?
(37m 19s)
The great motivator.
(37m 21s) Al:
Yeah.
(37m 21s) Codey:
Um, So I think in general, bugs have are more intelligent than people realise.
(37m 29s)
And but also these types of things that pop up just are not surprising.
(37m 35s)
I actually yesterday went bowling and told, um, through a random conversation, I got to talking to one of the people who works at the bowling alley, and they asked me about how I’m an entomologist, and they asked me about a video they saw about jumping spiders, and that they have REM sleep, and they could possibly dream.
(37m 57s) Al:
Hmm.
(37m 58s) Codey:
And they said that this person said that their dad had told them this and that it’s completely made up and entomologists are wasting their time.
(38m 7s)
But it’s not made up.
(38m 8s)
Um, We, some researchers at Harvard did see that there is room sleep and jumping spiders.
(38m 17s)
And if you have ever taken the time.
(38m 20s)
I know most people probably aren’t going to do this because of the fear and stigma around insects, arthropods in general.
(38m 26s)
Probably not ever like stared at a jumping spider.
(38m 30s)
But if you have, it is a wonderful experience.
(38m 33s)
They clearly perceive you.
(38m 34s)
They clearly are curious and interested in what you’re doing.
(38m 39s)
There’s a bigger market to have them as pets.
(38m 44s)
Um, you can buy them like at pet stores here in the United States now.
(38m 48s)
which I always think is hilarious because they’re usually selling, I think it’s like Fidipus Autax or something like that, which is just, I can just go find one outside right now instead of buying one for $50.
(38m 59s)
Um, it’s probably going to be in better health than the one that I’m going to get at Petco.
(39m 3s)
Um, There’s so many different species of them.
(39m 7s)
They are so interesting and it’s just one of those things that people aren’t interested in looking into or in like investigating.
(39m 16s)
We’ve lost a lot of the wonder because of the fear that people have of these things.
(39m 20s)
Like, another one of my friends was telling me about how scared she was of seller spiders.
(39m 24s)
I was like, why?
(39m 25s)
They’re not going to do anything.
(39m 28s)
Do you guys have seller spiders?
(39m 30s) Al:
Uh.
(39m 33s) Codey:
Uh, they’re like really long legged spiders that live in your basement or cellar or whatever.
(39m 34s) Al:
Yeah.
(39m 39s)
Yeah, no, I, I,
(39m 41s) Codey:
They don’t, they don’t want to mess with you.
(39m 43s)
They’re literally just chilling to consume any bugs that are in your house.
(39m 47s)
So, but she was like dog sitting for someone or something and there was one in the shower and she was like, nope, and she killed it.
(39m 57s)
And I’m like, I mean, you do you, if you, if you genuinely are afraid, but also maybe consider that fear.
(40m 3s)
Maybe take a 2nd and be like, what, where is this coming from?
(40m 6s)
And is it rational?
(40m 9s)
Because a lot of folks fear of arthropods is completely irrational and it’s a learned behaviour.
(40m 15s)
So they’re super cool and super intelligent.
(40m 18s)
In my opinion.
(40m 20s)
Any questions about that rant that I just went on?
(40m 23s) Al:
No, I I I would say one thing is I think it’s fair to have a rational…
(40m 29s) Codey:
Oh, 100% like.
(40m 31s) Al:
So I don’t, I think it’s, people shouldn’t necessarily feel bad for their fear, but like that’s not the same thing as then, uh, trying to burn down.
(40m 38s) Codey:
Overcoming it.
(40m 39s)
Yeah.
(40m 41s)
Yes.
(40m 42s)
That’s, well, and that’s like, I have multiple weird irrational fears where if I see a certain thing or whatever, like, I have a visceral, like, ugh, reaction.
(40m 53s)
Like, I’m just like, ooh, gross.
(40m 54s)
But I don’t then, again, like you’re saying, like burn it down.
(40m 58s)
Um, those fears exist for a reason.
(41m 2s)
Um, but sometimes that reason is not based in reality.
(41m 8s)
for some folks.
(41m 10s)
Like, some of the people that I’ve talked to when I’ve done outreach events.
(41m 14s)
Um, like people being afraid that a spider’s gonna crawl in their ear.
(41m 18s)
And I’m like, I don’t think that’s going to happen.
(41m 22s)
There’s no point in that ever happening.
(41m 26s)
Um, yeah, it’s just, it’s one of those things like once you know more about the topic.
(41m 31s)
The fear kind of goes away.
(41m 33s)
I’m not as worried about it.
(41m 34s)
Everyone here on the east coast was so worried about the murder hornets in 2020.
(41m 39s) Al:
Oh, I yeah, I remember that.
(41m 41s) Codey:
And if you know, if you just looked it up a little bit about what, like not any of the murder hornet things, but like looked up information about, what is it, Vespa Mandarina, I want to say?
(41m 56s)
Um, this.
(41m 59s)
Um, so they’re called the Asian giant hornet is actually, yeah, Vespa Mandarina, Mandarinia.
(42m 4s)
Um, you would know that that’s not, nothing’s, you’re fine.
(42m 9s)
They’re not coming for you.
(42m 10s)
Like, especially if you’re on the east coast because they are like most social wasps.
(42m 17s)
They are a social species that has a hierarchical, like structure.
(42m 22s)
And if you find a single female somewhere in the world.
(42m 27s)
It is like in a random ass place.
(42m 30s)
It is unlikely that she is going to have fertilised eggs and then generate a colony and they don’t do it that fast either.
(42m 37s)
They usually only have one colony a year.
(42m 39s)
So it’s not like a single foundress is going to make like a 1000000000 of them in a week or something.
(42m 46s)
Um, so it’s just, it’s not likely.
(42m 50s)
It’s not going to happen with them.
(42m 52s)
Some of the other organisms like spotted lanternfly, which is another issue, that is an issue out here in the East.
(42m 57s)
They do have a 1000000000 babies and they are super hardy.
(43m 2s)
So like that is an issue, but the murder hornet is not.
(43m 5s)
Um, And a lot of that was just people’s fear and a visceral reaction and people started fires because they saw a local hornet, which is, well, it’s quote unquote local.
(43m 18s)
the European hornet, but it’s a different species that is not the crazy honeybee killing species that everyone was freaked out about.
(43m 25s)
Um, everyone was like, 0 my gosh, the the murder hornets here because something that looks like it is here.
(43m 26s) Al:
Yeah.
(43m 31s) Codey:
And like some people started fires because they literally used flamethrowers to like try and kill these these hornets.
(43m 37s) Al:
But.
(43m 41s) Codey:
And it’s like, that’s, it’s just,
(43m 42s) Al:
I’m surprised they didn’t try and shoot them with bullets.
(43m 44s) Codey:
Yeah, I’m sure that that tried to that happen as well.
(43m 48s)
So yeah, all of this to say, irrational.
(43m 48s) Al:
Yeah, just try, just try and hit the flying creature.
(43m 52s)
Well done.
(43m 53s) Codey:
Irrational fears and those feelings have like they exist for a reason.
(43m 59s)
They’re there for a reason, but before you then deuce like action.
(44m) Al:
Yeah.
(44m 4s) Codey:
Take a pause and think about if action really needs to be taken.
(44m 7s) Al:
Yeah.
(44m 11s)
You know, my thing about my thing about hornets is that the noise is particularly terrifying.
(44m 14s) Codey:
Yeah.
(44m 19s) Al:
It’s so loud and it’s like, I think I’ve only really seen hornets once in real life. Like, they’re not super, super common here.
(44m 21s) Codey:
Yeah.
(44m 29s) Al:
Um, more likely to see wasps, like wasps and bees see all the time.
(44m 33s) Codey:
Yeah.
(44m 33s) Al:
In fact, I have just outside my office where I’m recording just now, we have a hedge, which is actually like 4 different plants growing together.
(44m 42s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(44m 43s) Al:
It’s not a single one. And my goodness, there are a lot of bees that hang around there.
(44m 48s)
Like, on Friday, I was looking at it trying to, trying to figure out how many were and I could easily count like 25 of them in like one small section of the hedge.
(44m 49s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(44m 55s)
Mm-hmm.
(44m 57s) Al:
So, um, yeah, bees and wasps I see all the time, but hornets, I think the thing is when they’re, when you see them less often, they are, it’s easier to be frightened of them, especially when they are larger and noisier and uh, more scaly and, you know, just like lots of things.
(45m 5s) Codey:
Yeah.
(45m 9s)
Yes.
(45m 12s)
Yeah.
(45m 16s)
Yeah.
(45m 18s)
It just, it, I, like, I understand that, and definitely, like, there have been times when I’m in the forest and I come upon, like, a bald faced hornet nest or something like that, and I’m like, oop, gonna walk over her now, like, for if it was a different type of nest or something, I would probably just be like, oh, interesting, and then just like walk by, not being that worried about it.
(45m 33s) Al:
Yeah.
(45m 40s) Codey:
So, I mean, they,
(45m 41s) Al:
Those are white.
(45m 42s) Codey:
Oh yeah, so the Baldface hornets have like this white on their face.
(45m 45s)
Like, yeah, they’re really interesting.
(45m 48s) Al:
If that was a Pokemon, it would be a ghost tape.
(45m 52s) Codey:
It should yeah, it should be.
(45m 54s)
That is actually really cool.
(45m 57s)
Um, now I’m thinking about that.
(46m)
But, yeah.
(46m 2s)
That’s, I don’t know how we got on that topic, but…
(46m 6s) Al:
Bees clever.
(46m 7s) Codey:
Bees are clever and you people don’t consider that because they are afraid of them.
(46m 13s)
Um, so thank you for the question, Kat.
(46m 16s)
Feel free to put out another question or listeners for to put in your own question in the Slack.
(46m 25s)
So briefly I wanted to…
(46m 26s) Al:
Although hopefully episodes will be recorded by the time you hear this, but you never know.
(46m 31s) Codey:
Oh yeah, true.
(46m 32s)
I mean, I can always answer them later, or on Slack, or whatever.
(46m 36s)
Um,
(46m 38s) Al:
If it gets popular, maybe Cody’s Entomology Corner will expand past bug a month.
(46m 43s) Codey:
Aw, could be like a monthly thing.
(46m 47s) Al:
No promises, but…
(46m 49s) Codey:
I will promise forever. Because that’s what I do.
(46m 52s)
Okay, so some resources past what I…
(46m 56s) Al:
Oh, hey, Cody, Cody, are you about to tell us bug stuff on the web?
(46m 57s) Codey:
yeah.
(46m 57s)
Yeah.
(47m 2s)
I am.
(47m 2s)
I’m gonna tell people stuff to look up on the web to understand bugs.
(47m 9s)
Okay, so if you are in North America.
(47m 14s)
Sorry, I’ll, uh, bugguide.net.
(47m 16s) Al:
I don’t apologise.
(47m 17s)
I don’t want to be there.
(47m 17s) Codey:
Oh, you’re right.
(47m 20s)
Uh, bugguide.net is a wonderful uh, resource that I use a lot that has a lot of really good information about different species.
(47m 28s)
It’s kind of like, um, a Wikipedia of bugs specifically that entomologists use, and we will update it and add new information, and we put pictures up there.
(47m 38s)
So it’s a way if you have a very specific species or a certain thing that you’re looking for, you can actually browse through a bunch of different things to try and get it.
(47m 48s)
So sometimes I will find, uh, like very clearly I have a ground beetle in the family karabity, but I don’t know where to go from there.
(47m 57s)
I don’t know what it is.
(47m 58s)
Um, on bug guide, they might they will have some references of what, um, like different dichotomous keys that I could use to try and diagnose what kind of bug it, like what kind of carabit it is.
(48m 10s)
Um, I could look at photos of a bunch of different carabids and see, oh, this one’s a West Coast one, this one’s an East Coast one.
(48m 17s)
Um, if an entomologist made a cool graphic or something, they would probably put it on the crabbed page.
(48m 24s)
So it’s kind of a repository for a bunch of information about things that people put, uh, that people have, um, either the information or the questions.
(48m 34s)
You can also upload photos, and entomologists will categorise them for you, or ask questions.
(48m 40s)
Um, so I really like Bug Guide.
(48m 44s)
I use it fairly regularly.
(48m 46s)
So I highly suggest it if you are in the area, um, of North America.
(48m 51s)
Another thing that I really like, and this is global, is called eye naturalist. So this is an application that can be used not just for bugs, you can use it for literally any biotic organism that you see, that you can have it on your phone, and you take a photo of whatever you see in front of you, and then there is an algorithm that has now been trained on, like, at this point, probably 10000000s of user uploaded images of biotic organisms.
(49m 21s)
It uses that and then also uses feedback from users. to give you a prediction of what it thinks that it’s looking at.
(49m 31s)
Um, or what you, what it thinks is in the photo.
(49m 36s)
Uh, notes, you need to have a really good photo.
(49m 39s)
So if you put like a Bigfoot photo of something on there, depending on what it is, you might not get very good suggestions.
(49m 47s)
Sometimes people like will reach out to me and I highly suggest if anyone wants to do this, please do it.
(49m 52s)
I love getting these these questions.
(49m 54s)
But they reach out to me and they’re like, what is this bug?
(49m 56s)
And I’m like, well, this photo looks like it’s a smudge on the bottom of a well that I am at the top of.
(50m 3s)
So I don’t, I can’t tell you much information, or I can tell you a, a smattering, but I can’t tell you like more specific than that.
(50m 12s)
Um, so on eye naturalist, if you’re going to upload something, make sure it’s, you know, the clearest photo that you can get, um, maybe if you have, if you can take a couple photos from a couple different angles, because sometimes you need to see things from different angles to be able to diagnose uh, lower. And then the algorithm and other users will go through and confirm identifications and uh, maybe update identifications.
(50m 38s)
Um, so I really like that as well.
(50m 41s)
And even if you don’t want to make an eye naturalist account and contribute.
(50m 45s)
You can just go onto it and explore. So you could go out to wherever your neighbourhood is, um, on the eye naturalist map and just look, look up, um, observations of insects.
(51m)
And then it’ll show you all of the different bugs that people have taken photos of in your area.
(51m 4s)
So you kind of have then like, uh, a list or like a task, like, oh, here are all the things that I could see.
(51m 11s)
Let me go find them, you know.
(51m 13s)
Um, the last thing I’ll say about I Naturalist, I super love it in general, but like as a cute thing that people can do, but also, if your observation gets confirmed by enough people and there’s a consensus among the people that identify whatever is in your image, it becomes what is known as research grade.
(51m 34s)
So that is a an observation at a specific time and location, which you should have that information when you upload it.
(51m 42s)
An observation of that organism at that time and that location that could then be used in research going forward.
(51m 52s)
And there have been entire papers discussing range distributions and distributional changes where an insect or anything might.
(52m 2s)
have popped up into a new area or where how that shifted in the last 50 years and how something might be going more northward and it’s not really being seen in its southern range anymore, but it’s being found more north.
(52m 15s)
It can explain invasions.
(52m 17s)
So if something is invasive.
(52m 19s)
And then you’re like, oh, one popped up like way over here on a naturalist.
(52m 23s)
I actually used it for that reason, um, for an aunt that is coming into our area.
(52m 29s)
Um, and it’s all like citizen science.
(52m 32s)
Like anyone can do this.
(52m 33s)
I’ve met kids that do this and they just have so much fun.
(52m 36s)
It’s like real life Pokemon hunting.
(52m 38s)
So highly recommend people go on to a naturalist and create an account and start recording observations.
(52m 39s) Al:
Hmm.
(52m 44s) Codey:
You can also become like the best observer in your area.
(52m 48s)
There’s like a, a, a leader list.
(52m 52s)
Leaderboard.
(52m 54s) Al:
Oh don’t gamify it for me.
(52m 56s) Codey:
Oh, it’s gamified.
(52m 57s)
Um, and then the last thing, so those are 2 really good resources for finding insects in your world and getting more information about them.
(53m 5s)
Um, the last thing I’m going to plug is ecology supplies, which is a company that is based in my area, actually.
(53m 14s)
There used to be this big company called Bioquip that you would get equipment for biological research, but that company, um, they retired and no one took up the mantle.
(53m 27s)
So, um, ecology supplies is one of the companies that’s kind of taking over that gap in, because then a bunch of us were like, where are we going to get pins?
(53m 37s)
Where are we going to get like all of these nets?
(53m 39s)
Like, where are we going to get what we need?
(53m 41s)
So ecology supplies is that.
(53m 42s)
Um, and so if you have anything that you need for, if you’re interested in collecting insects, um, you can go to ecology supplies and there’s actually even like a student starter kit that I want to say is like a $100, but it includes like everything, like the net and all of the pins and a box to put them in and like it kind of goes over how to do everything.
(54m 5s)
So I really like that for like a kid.
(54m 9s)
If you have a family member who’s really interested in bugs.
(54m 12s)
Highly recommend it.
(54m 13s)
Do you have any questions about the resources, though?
(54m 14s) Al:
Cool. No, it all seems very cool.
(54m 16s) Codey:
Cool, taxonomy.
(54m 18s)
Okay.
(54m 19s)
So now we’re going to go through starting from the group Arthropoda, or which is just the Arthropods.
(54m 28s)
So these are all soft bodied organisms, um, like, soft bodied invertebrates that, um, have segmented bodies.
(54m 40s)
I’m trying to remember exactly what distinguishes arthropods.
(54m 44s)
Now that I’m like looking at it.
(54m 47s)
Um, yeah, it has a exoskeleton, um, a chitinous exoskeleton, uh, body that is differentiated into segments and paired jointed appendages.
(54m 59s)
So think of like a leg, an insect or a spider leg.
(55m 3s)
Like it is, there is always one on either side of the body.
(55m 6s)
There’s like to match, um, and they are jointed, so that they, it’s not just like a stick hanging out, doing nothing.
(55m 13s)
Like it has musculature.
(55m 17s)
So there are 4 groups of arthropods.
(55m 19s)
The 1st ones are the chalicerates.
(55m 22s)
So these are things like uh, spiders and scorpion, like a lot of the arachnids are in uh, chilicerata.
(55m 31s)
Um, Water scorpions.
(55m 34s)
I don’t know if you’ve ever seen those in sea spiders, picnagodids.
(55m 37s)
Really cool.
(55m 38s)
Um, they… You’re looking at them.
(55m 39s) Al:
I have not.
(55m 39s)
There are quite something.
(55m 44s)
I am looking at them.
(55m 44s) Codey:
Yeah.
(55m 45s)
Um, so I actually really like going on, uh, I naturalist and you can look at like the taxonomy tab and you can go through some of these things.
(55m 56s)
It’s very interesting.
(55m 58s)
Another thing that is within chalicerates are horseshoe crabs, which are one of evolutions, like chef’s kiss things, because horseshoe crabs are one of those organisms that has changed very little in the last like 100s of 1000000s of years or whatever.
(56m 18s)
Um, It, they just, they, they look almost exactly the same as they have always looked.
(56m 24s)
There are these little goobers that are aquatic, um, and I got to see some of my 1st ones recently, and I was very excited um, out here in the eastern.
(56m 36s)
Let me see where their range is.
(56m 37s)
I can look at their range.
(56m 38s)
Oh yeah, you’re not going to ever see them.
(56m 41s)
They’re not anywhere near you.
(56m 42s)
Yeah, correct.
(56m 43s) Al:
Also not a crab.
(56m 44s) Codey:
Also, not a crab.
(56m 45s)
Um,
(56m 45s) Al:
I will never be tired of seeing us name animals after a different animal that it is not.
(56m 55s) Codey:
Yeah.
(56m 55s)
So a lot of that stems from, um, when people started naming things the 1st time, like the 1st time around.
(57m 4s)
They were just going based off of like what it looks like.
(57m 8s)
Like the morphology of it.
(57m 9s) Al:
Yeah.
(57m 10s)
Doesn’t look like a crab either, though.
(57m 11s) Codey:
Or, or share.
(57m 13s) Al:
If this is if this is what they thought a crab looked like, what crabs did they have?
(57m 13s) Codey:
Well, so if you flip it over, it does.
(57m 15s)
It’s got,
(57m 18s)
If you flip a crab over, they actually look pretty similar.
(57m 20s) Al:
That still doesn’t look like a crab.
(57m 23s) Codey:
They have the same little legs.
(57m 23s) Al:
No, I know, I’m not, no, no, I am not, look, look, I will defer to you on matters of definitions and matters of bugs.
(57m 26s) Codey:
Okay.
(57m 30s)
Okay.
(57m 32s) Al:
I will not let you gaslight me into thinking this looks like a crab in any way, shape, or form.
(57m 36s) Codey:
Okay.
(57m 38s)
Agree to disagree.
(57m 40s)
Um
(57m 41s) Al:
Listeners, go look at the horseshoe crab.
(57m 44s)
Tell me how on earth anyone would think this looks like a crap.
(57m 48s) Codey:
on the underside of.
(57m 49s) Al:
No.
(57m 50s) Codey:
Um, so, but so, so, way back when, if we had only looked at how things either behaved or how they looked, um, this is how you 1st get in the 1st beginnings of, of, uh, classification of organisms, they thought that bats were birds because they both fly, right?
(57m 50s) Al:
It just has legs.
(57m 52s)
That doesn’t make it look like a crab.
(58m 11s)
Fair, yes.
(58m 11s) Codey:
They both they both fly, they both do the similar things.
(58m 15s)
They’re not, clearly.
(58m 17s)
They are, but it’s just another organism from a different group that is using the same niche, niche.
(58m 25s)
How do you want to say it?
(58m 26s)
How do you want me to say it?
(58m 28s) Al:
You can say who you want to.
(58m 29s)
I would say niche, but you can say what you want.
(58m 30s) Codey:
Niche, okay.
(58m 31s)
Okay.
(58m 31s) Al:
I’m not going to police your language.
(58m 33s) Codey:
I feel like someone in the, in the, someone’s listening and is like, hey, stop, pronounce that way.
(58m 38s) Al:
Probably, but that’s not that’s not how language works.
(58m 38s) Codey:
Everyone.
(58m 39s)
It’s true.
(58m 41s)
Um, so yeah, that’s that’s how you get things like this being called a horseshoe crab, even though it’s not even in the subphylum of crustacea.
(58m 51s)
It’s with chalicerites.
(58m 53s) Al:
It doesn’t it doesn’t even really look like a horseshoe.
(58m 55s)
I get where they’re coming from that one
(58m 56s)
It looks more like a horseshoe than it does a crab, but like even that’s a stretch, horseshoe.
(58m 58s) Codey:
Yeah.
(59m 1s)
Yeah.
(59m 1s) Al:
Like it looks like a bowl.
(59m 3s)
It looks like something’s got stuck under a ball.
(59m 6s) Codey:
But when they named it, I mean, how many did people have bowls that looked that were shaped like this or did the bowl, you know?
(59m 14s)
I don’t know.
(59m 16s) Al:
Well, when they gave the English name, the modern English name to this, we’re not talking, we’re not, we’re not trying to suggest that it was called horseshoe crab 5000 years ago.
(59m 23s) Codey:
I know.
(59m 26s) Al:
I don’t know when were bowls invented?
(59m 26s) Codey:
Yeah.
(59m 27s)
I don’t know.
(59m 31s) Al:
roughly 18,000 years ago.
(59m 35s) Codey:
Yeah, an 18001 year ago, horseshoe crabs were named.
(59m 37s) Al:
It was when they gave the name horseshoe crab to this creature.
(59m 42s)
I would absolutely love if this was the death, like the origin of both horseshoes and crabs.
(59m 48s) Codey:
Oh my gosh.
(59m 51s) Al:
We named horseshoes, horseshoes, because they look like horseshoe crap.
(59m 56s)
Not because they’re shoes for horses.
(1h 1s) Codey:
Okay, so, yeah, chalicerates includes arachnids, uh, which has the spiders and the scorpions and the mites and the ticks and like all the other things people don’t like.
(1h 10s)
Uh, it also includes, oh, chillistrates also includes the horseshoe crabs and the sea spiders.
(1h 16s)
Um, crustaceans is another subphylum within arthropods.
(1h 22s)
Um, sure does include the things that you’re thinking about, the crabs, the, oh, there’s also the horseshoe shrimps.
(1h 31s) Al:
Oh boy, are they shrimps?
(1h 33s) Codey:
They’re shrimps.
(1h 34s)
There are have are 4 whole observations of them on eye naturalist.
(1h 40s) Al:
Oh, wow.
(1h 40s) Codey:
Um.
(1h 41s) Al:
Horseshoe, again, a bit of a stretch.
(1h 44s)
But if it is actually a shrimp, I’ll give it the shrimp.
(1h 44s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 44s)
Oh, fun.
(1h 45s)
This.
(1h 47s)
Crustaceans includes the superclass oligastreca, which includes the tongue worms.
(1h 48s) Al:
Let it have.
(1h 55s) Codey:
Have you heard of tongue worms before?
(1h 56s) Al:
Oh no, do I want to have…
(1h 57s) Codey:
It’s actually kind of cool.
(1h 59s)
So, but people were probably not going to like it, but it’s basically these worms.
(1h 1m 3s) Al:
Oh no.
(1h 1m 5s) Codey:
These worms that go into fit, it’s fish.
(1h 1m 8s)
It’s they’re aquatic.
(1h 1m 9s)
But they will go in um, into a fish, I think, through the gills.
(1h 1m 10s) Al:
Okay.
(1h 1m 14s) Codey:
They will consume the fish’s tongue, and then they will functionally become the fish’s tongue.
(1h 1m 20s)
So they will basically do what the tongue was already doing.
(1h 1m 21s) Al:
Go.
(1h 1m 24s) Codey:
And so whenever, but that whenever the fish is eating something, the tongue worm will just take a little bit.
(1h 1m 30s)
Just take a little nibble of whatever it’s eating.
(1h 1m 33s)
And that’s what it does.
(1h 1m 34s)
That’s what they do.
(1h 1m 41s)
I’m unlocking new horrors for people.
(1h 1m 44s) Al:
I’m suddenly very aware of my time.
(1h 1m 47s) Codey:
Arthropods also includes myriapods, which has the centipedes and the millipedes and their associate associates.
(1h 1m 56s)
Do you guys have house centipedes?
(1h 1m 59s) Al:
I always have to Google these things because sometimes we call them, oh, no.
(1h 2m 2s)
Oh, that is a lot of like.
(1h 2m 4s) Codey:
Yeah, so how centipedes have a lot of legs, uh, and they are here.
(1h 2m 8s) Al:
I don’t think that’s a 100 legs, though, just saying.
(1h 2m 9s) Codey:
So like,
(1h 2m 11s)
No, so they so the centipedes and millipedes saying a 100 legs and a 1000 legs, not true.
(1h 2m 16s)
Um, that’s not how many legs they have.
(1h 2m 20s)
It’s just,
(1h 2m 20s) Al:
You get these things in your house.
(1h 2m 22s) Codey:
Yes, I we have them in my house right now.
(1h 2m 25s) Al:
Oh my, because spiders didn’t have enough.
(1h 2m 27s) Codey:
No.
(1h 2m 28s)
Well, and so these things, because they’re they’re really quite,
(1h 2m 30s)
well, I mean, spiders are also quiet, but like, you can just, you’ll just turn around and there’s one of these things like on the wall.
(1h 2m 36s) Al:
Because here’s the thing about centipedes is like most of like my experience of centipedes has been like the really long things.
(1h 2m 41s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 2m 41s) Al:
This is not long.
(1h 2m 43s)
This just looks like it went, I need more legs.
(1h 2m 44s) Codey:
No.
(1h 2m 46s) Al:
Why do you need more legs?
(1h 2m 46s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 2m 47s) Al:
I don’t know.
(1h 2m 48s)
I just like the legs.
(1h 2m 49s)
Let me have the legs.
(1h 2m 50s) Codey:
I like the legs.
(1h 2m 50s) Al:
What is like normal centipede like, I get why they have lots of legs.
(1h 2m 53s)
They’ve got a really long body.
(1h 2m 54s)
This thing.
(1h 2m 54s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 2m 56s) Al:
Not really.
(1h 2m 57s) Codey:
No.
(1h 2m 58s)
Didn’t doesn’t need a lot of legs, doesn’t need, um…
(1h 3m 2s) Al:
It’s stealing all the legs.
(1h 3m 2s) Codey:
It’s also, it’s also, they’re also,
(1h 3m 3s) Al:
Who’s he stealing legs from?
(1h 3m 5s) Codey:
They’re also long, very long legs versus like some of some of the other centipedes.
(1h 3m 9s) Al:
Yeah, the legs are longer than the body.
(1h 3m 10s) Codey:
Yeah, centipedes in general do not have legs that are this long.
(1h 3m 15s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 3m 15s) Codey:
Um,
(1h 3m 16s)
Yeah.
(1h 3m 18s)
The main difference between centipedes and millipedes is going to be the number of legs per segment, but also that centipedes are generally predatory to other things and they usually live in like leaf litter or whatever.
(1h 3m 30s)
So they’re going to be in, in the, underneath things that you’re probably not going to see them that often unless you like flip a log, which I do that a lot.
(1h 3m 38s)
So I see a lot of these.
(1h 3m 39s)
Um, and millipedes are not.
(1h 3m 41s)
So they are normally what are known as detritivores.
(1h 3m 44s)
They consume detritus or like just organic material that has degraded past or being able to be identified.
(1h 3m 54s)
Um, And so like soil.
(1h 3m 57s)
They’re usually in the soils, they might consume dead wood.
(1h 4m)
Um, and they’re actually very important for uh, nutrient recycling because a lot of stuff without a detritivore.
(1h 4m 6s)
Some things won’t break down very quickly.
(1h 4m 9s)
And so the nutrients that were within that thing that is supposed to be being broke, that needs to be broken down would just sit there for a long time.
(1h 4m 18s)
So things like to try divorce are great because they will munch it up, they will eat it, and then they will poop it out and it will be very, very, uh, able to, like the nutrients can get into the system a lot easier as the fras of a detritivore versus like as a log that is slowly deteriorating.
(1h 4m 36s)
So.
(1h 4m 37s) Al:
Well.
(1h 4m 38s) Codey:
We have some really cool millipedes here too.
(1h 4m 41s)
Some that are pretty big.
(1h 4m 42s)
And millipedes are also something that you can have like as pets.
(1h 4m 45s)
People have them as pets.
(1h 4m 46s)
Um, oh, also part of uh, Mary, uh, the subphylum Mariapoda is parapoda, which has like the, um, wood lice in it, roly-poleys, pill bugs. Yeah.
(1h 4m 47s) Al:
Yes.
(1h 5m)
Ah, yes, wood lice.
(1h 5m 2s)
Ludlice, every, they are everywhere here all the time.
(1h 5m 6s)
They’re just everywhere.
(1h 5m 8s) Codey:
Yeah, and people have, like people have those as pets too.
(1h 5m 12s)
So they have like some that are the rubber ducky.
(1h 5m 14s) Al:
It feels like the most boring animal to have as a pet, I would…
(1h 5m 17s) Codey:
Well, it’s it’s mostly so that you have all the different colours, colour morphs, because they come in orange, they come in blue, they come in, they come in lava, lava colour, you can get the rubber ducky one, you can get the cow.
(1h 5m 21s) Al:
Oh, shiny hunting.
(1h 5m 29s)
Oh, interesting.
(1h 5m 30s)
I’ll be honest.
(1h 5m 30s)
I’ve never
(1h 5m 31s)
I’ve never seen them other than just like the dull gray, dark gray colour.
(1h 5m 34s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 5m 36s) Al:
That’s the stand.
(1h 5m 37s)
That’s that’s all I’ve really…
(1h 5m 39s) Codey:
So look up rubber ducky isopod right now.
(1h 5m 42s)
No, don’t be don’t be scared.
(1h 5m 44s) Al:
Oh, what?
(1h 5m 45s) Codey:
Isn’t that cute?
(1h 5m 47s) Al:
What?
(1h 5m 48s) Codey:
You can have them as pets.
(1h 5m 49s) Al:
This is a, this is a real thing?
(1h 5m 51s) Codey:
That’s a real thing.
(1h 5m 52s) Al:
Its face looks like a dog.
(1h 5m 56s) Codey:
Correct
(1h 5m 56s) Al:
Like I’m not, this is not, this is not a thing, right?
(1h 6m)
Like listeners, you know I’m not going to like overreact.
(1h 6m 3s)
Like, I will call it out when it’s not.
(1h 6m 5s)
This the face looks like a rubber duck.
(1h 6m 5s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 6m 8s) Al:
It really does.
(1h 6m 8s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 6m 8s)
And you can get these.
(1h 6m 10s) Al:
Oh my word.
(1h 6m 10s) Codey:
You can get these as pets.
(1h 6m 12s)
Yeah.
(1h 6m 14s)
So that’s one of the ones that’s most popular.
(1h 6m 17s)
And so if you only get like, yeah, if you get like 10, so there are pets that you basically just like have to get like 10 and then they just breed and you can just, you can just throw in leaves.
(1h 6m 18s) Al:
I I see why.
(1h 6m 25s)
Why is this a thing?
(1h 6m 26s)
How did this happen?
(1h 6m 28s) Codey:
You can throw in like your apple core and they’ll consume it.
(1h 6m 32s)
Um, They’re just cute.
(1h 6m 35s)
Look at that.
(1h 6m 35s)
Look how cute that is.
(1h 6m 36s)
I don’t know how this happened in nature, but we sure… We sure did.
(1h 6m 40s) Al:
Native to Thailand.
(1h 6m 42s) Codey:
Oh yeah, everything is always new. Like, the tropics is where, um, evolution went crazy with colour.
(1h 6m 48s) Al:
Wow.
(1h 6m 51s) Codey:
So, yeah, that is the last of the, uh, arthropod subphyla that do that is not hexapods.
(1h 7m 1s)
So now we’re going into hexapods.
(1h 7m 3s)
Al, what do you think hexapod means?
(1h 7m 6s) Al:
Uh… Sorry, I just read what…
(1h 7m 11s)
Well, I would have said something to do with six.
(1h 7m 14s)
But then I just read the comment after the Vortex pod, which does not say anything about sex.
(1h 7m 15s) Codey:
Correct.
(1h 7m 19s)
Yeah.
(1h 7m 20s)
It does not.
(1h 7m 22s)
Uh, well, technically, the end part does.
(1h 7m 25s)
3 pairs of…
(1h 7m 27s)
Hexapods, uh, are the arthropods of the soft body chitinous body segmented into their body into segments, um, that have a three-part body plan.
(1h 7m 40s)
So they have a head, a thorax, and an abdomen, and they, on the thorax, there are 3 pairs of legs.
(1h 7m 48s) Al:
Bees. No, be, well, zombies, not obies, I guess.
(1h 7m 52s)
Wasps.
(1h 7m 53s) Codey:
What about wasps?
(1h 7m 53s) Al:
They have three.
(1h 7m 54s) Codey:
Correct.
(1h 7m 55s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 7m 56s) Codey:
All all insects do.
(1h 7m 59s)
All insects will have 3 body parts.
(1h 8m 1s) Al:
Oh, really?
(1h 8m 1s) Codey:
It’s just, yeah, so they, they will.
(1h 8m 2s) Al:
Even, even, even like bumblebees, they look like they’re just one big circle.
(1h 8m 7s) Codey:
Correct, but if you, if you shaved off all of their fuzz, you would find, You would find, like, a distinct head, a distinct thorax and a distinct abdomen.
(1h 8m 10s) Al:
Don’t do that.
(1h 8m 12s)
Don’t shave your bees.
(1h 8m 20s) Codey:
And the thorax is what the appendages come off of.
(1h 8m 24s)
So whether that is 3 pairs of legs or the wings.
(1h 8m 27s) Al:
Oh, sorry.
(1h 8m 29s)
Sorry, I just Googled shaved bumblebee.
(1h 8m 31s)
Don’t do that.
(1h 8m 32s)
Don’t guggle shaved bumblebee.
(1h 8m 34s) Codey:
They, I mean.
(1h 8m 35s) Al:
That’s not a shaved bumblebee.
(1h 8m 37s)
I don’t know what that is.
(1h 8m 38s)
That is horrific.
(1h 8m 38s) Codey:
Oh, oh.
(1h 8m 40s)
Okay.
(1h 8m 41s)
I mean, you can also just look at some of the other bees.
(1h 8m 43s) Al:
Okay, I can see, I can see, I I see an actual shaved bumblebee now, and yes, I see what you’re saying.
(1h 8m 47s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(1h 8m 48s)
Yeah.
(1h 8m 49s) Al:
They’re just very fluffy.
(1h 8m 51s)
Most of those pictures are not shaped on puppies.
(1h 8m 54s)
One of them definitely the Transformer.
(1h 8m 56s) Codey:
Oh yes.
(1h 8m 57s)
Yikes.
(1h 8m 58s)
Yikes.
(1h 8m 59s)
Um.
(1h 9m 1s)
So yeah, that’s what hexapods are.
(1h 9m 1s) Al:
Sorry, so sorry.
(1h 9m 3s)
I’m so sorry.
(1h 9m 5s) Codey:
They have that three-part body land. And then hexapods are separated into N Tognatha and Antognatha means inside jaw.
(1h 9m 17s)
So their mouth parts are all internal.
(1h 9m 20s)
So the chompy bits.
(1h 9m 22s)
It’s it’s inside of the body.
(1h 9m 24s)
It’s not something that you see.
(1h 9m 25s)
And they, uh, the 3 main groups within Antechnatha are the Colambolins, the diplurans, and the proterans.
(1h 9m 34s)
So Columbla, have you ever heard of spring tails?
(1h 9m 36s)
Oh my gosh, I love Springtail so much.
(1h 9m 40s)
So Springtails, yeah, so they come in all kinds of shapes and sizes.
(1h 9m 42s) Al:
Ooh, they’re so fluffy.
(1h 9m 46s) Codey:
My favourite are the globular spring tales, but they are so named spring tail because they have this appendage underneath them called the furcula that is basically a jumpy uppy mechanism, where it’s always like, it’s, it’s, main state is to be furled, I guess, or like, think of like a mousetrap, and you’ve set the mousetrap so that it can be sprung, right?
(1h 10m 11s)
That is their main state.
(1h 10m 13s)
And then if they are afraid, if they’re, if like a predator scares them, they release that and it flings them elsewhere.
(1h 10m 21s)
They have no control over to where they are flung.
(1h 10m 26s)
They just get flung.
(1h 10m 28s)
Um, but that is why they’re called spring tails because they have this appendage that kind of looks like a tail that makes them jump away.
(1h 10m 30s) Al:
Okay.
(1h 10m 38s) Codey:
Um
(1h 10m 39s) Al:
I’ll be honest with you, I’m going to be honest with you, Poodie.
(1h 10m 42s)
Not a fan of the globular springtail.
(1h 10m 44s) Codey:
No, they’re so cute.
(1h 10m 44s) Al:
There’s something.
(1h 10m 46s)
No, no, it’s, it’s, it’s giving me, uh, like that hairless cat from friends.
(1h 10m 53s) Codey:
Oh yeah, I can get that.
(1h 10m 53s) Al:
I just I’m uncomfortable.
(1h 10m 55s)
I don’t.
(1h 10m 56s)
Like they, I’m not
(1h 10m 58s)
I’m not like live and let live.
(1h 11m 1s)
I’m not gonna, you know, I’m not going to genocide them, but not a fan.
(1h 11m 1s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 11m 4s)
Yep.
(1h 11m 7s) Al:
They just make me feel very uncomfortable.
(1h 11m 10s) Codey:
Well, do you like the elongate spring tails or the plump spring tails?
(1h 11m 13s) Al:
They’re they’re fine.
(1h 11m 15s) Codey:
The plump ones are nuts because they have some.
(1h 11m 18s) Al:
Oh, they’re very, they’re fuzzy.
(1h 11m 20s) Codey:
They’re, yeah, the plump ones have like a lot of, they look, they just have so many weird like things coming off of them.
(1h 11m 29s)
They’re also pretty bright colours.
(1h 11m 30s)
Um, I do love some, like some of these have just like the wildest.
(1h 11m 35s)
They’re like blue or bright red, so then you can actually see them pretty well as they are in the, so these are also detritivorous.
(1h 11m 40s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 11m 43s) Codey:
They’re also mainly going to be like in the leaf litter.
(1h 11m 45s)
Um, someone, I kind of remember who said this, but like, Whenever you’re standing on a forest patch, you’re probably standing on like a 1000000 arthropods beneath you, just beneath your feet. And it’s mostly going to be things like spring tails and like other tiny things, like mites and whatever, but those are all required for ecosystem function because they break things down.
(1h 12m 11s)
They also are consumed by things.
(1h 12m 12s)
So that’s spring tails.
(1h 12m 15s)
We also have diplurines, which are bristle tails.
(1h 12m 18s)
So dye, plura, they have 2 plura or like tails, I think is what that’s considered.
(1h 12m 23s)
They don’t have any eyes, which is nuts.
(1h 12m 27s)
They, I think they just sense the world mostly through their antennae.
(1h 12m 33s)
And they have, yeah, those 2 prongs that come out of the back.
(1h 12m 37s)
And then Protura, um, is the other Antegnathan hexapod, also doesn’t have eyes.
(1h 12m 44s)
And they, so their body has what is known as anamorphic development, they basically just keep adding segments onto the back.
(1h 12m 53s)
So as they get older, they just butt get long.
(1h 12m 57s)
It just keeps.
(1h 12m 59s) Al:
Like the, like snake, the game.
(1h 13m) Codey:
It’s it just keeps going.
(1h 13m 3s)
Um, yeah, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pro Terren, because they’re so small and I don’t even really know where you would find one.
(1h 13m 12s)
They’re also called the cone heads.
(1h 13m 12s) Al:
Yeah, these pictures, these pictures are clearly like, uh, um, what they called.
(1h 13m 19s) Codey:
Microscopic.
(1h 13m 20s) Al:
Microscopic, that’s what it is.
(1h 13m 20s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 13m 21s) Al:
I was like, not telescope, the other one.
(1h 13m 24s)
The opposite of that.
(1h 13m 24s) Codey:
No, they’re, they’re very, very small.
(1h 13m 27s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 13m 28s) Codey:
Um, so, but they’re called cone heads because they have their heads are little cones.
(1h 13m 34s)
Um, and then finally we arrive at insects.
(1h 13m 38s)
So, uh, insects or ectoganatha, so they’re external mouth parts.
(1h 13m 44s)
Insect means cut into pieces.
(1h 13m 47s)
Um, and they called it this because of the fact that they’re made up of little pieces.
(1h 13m 52s)
Usually like the, again, the, there’s that three-part body plan.
(1h 13m 55s)
They have 3 pairs of legs.
(1h 13m 57s)
They have a paired wings, like they have all of these thing, antennae, all of these things that are that are pieces that put it together.
(1h 14m 5s)
Um, at least that’s what people thought however many years ago.
(1h 14m 11s)
Along with their external mouth parts, they also have compound eyes and antennae.
(1h 14m 18s)
So compound eyes are, instead of just having a simple, um, ocular device.
(1h 14m 25s)
that can see in one thing, like one thing at a time, they have eyes that are made up of many, sometimes in some organisms, I want to say like 100s or 1000s of pieces that help make one picture.
(1h 14m 43s)
Um, so it’s compound because it’s multiple pieces that make, that can help you make, help them make one picture.
(1h 14m 52s)
And then, and that’s how they visualise.
(1h 14m 54s)
And then antennae or how they sense and smell and taste in all of that, taste their environment.
(1h 15m)
Um, that’s their antennae and their eyes are like the 2 main sensory organs that insects have.
(1h 15m 7s)
Insects are incredibly diverse.
(1h 15m 11s)
On the Wikipedia, it says half of all known animal species are insects.
(1h 15m 16s)
Um, or it says half of all animal species, but I put the word known because there are so many more that have just been completely undescribed because people don’t, we don’t have enough entomologists to describe them all, basically.
(1h 15m 30s)
Um, or have the knowledge.
(1h 15m 32s)
We haven’t gone to gone everywhere.
(1h 15m 34s)
There’s some places that insects are still being found.
(1h 15m 36s)
Um, It’s wild.
(1h 15m 39s)
It’s, there’s a saying that someone once said that God has an inordinate fondness of Beatles, because there’s so many Beatles species.
(1h 15m 48s)
I think that you can fit like all of the other insect species within, uh, not, so all of the non-Holland metabolist insect species within Beatles. It’s just, there’s so many.
(1h 15m 59s)
There’s like 20 Beatles for every other thing.
(1h 16m 3s)
Um, okay.
(1h 16m 5s)
And then there’s three, we’re almost there, folks.
(1h 16m 8s)
We’re almost there.
(1h 16m 9s)
There’s 3 things that separate out.
(1h 16m 12s) Al:
It’s fine if they didn’t, if they didn’t care about entomology, Carter, they couldn’t skip it if they wanted.
(1h 16m 15s) Codey:
You’re right, you’re right.
(1h 16m 16s)
Uh, there’s 3 things that separate, uh, that are 3 groupings within insects.
(1h 16m 21s)
So there’s what’s known as archaeognatha or ancient Jaw.
(1h 16m 24s)
And these are just the basic bristle tails.
(1h 16m 28s)
So they have 3 cersei or prongs.
(1h 16m 30s)
Um, but they have a very different external mouth part than any other insect.
(1h 16m 38s)
So they have what’s called monocondile, so it only has one joint, um, point, but all other insects have dicondile, so 2 joint points for their mouth parts.
(1h 16m 50s)
So, Archaegnatha, they’re off on their own.
(1h 16m 52s)
They’re these little bristle tails.
(1h 16m 54s)
They’re really cute
(1h 16m 54s)
Um, I mean, they’re all cute, in my opinion.
(1h 16m 57s)
And then Zigentoma, which is the silver fish.
(1h 17m)
Um, yeah, I don’t I didn’t really have anything else to say.
(1h 17m 4s)
If you’ve played Minecraft, you’ve found silverfish before.
(1h 17m 7s)
Though they hurt you in Minecraft and I don’t think that they would really hurt you in real life.
(1h 17m 12s)
Um, so those 2 insects do not ever have wings.
(1h 17m 17s)
So they are the only 2 orders within the class insecta that never have wings.
(1h 17m 24s)
Everything else is within tarragoda, which are all of the winged insects.
(1h 17m 30s)
Terry is wing.
(1h 17m 31s)
Um, in, uh, Latin.
(1h 17m 34s)
So everything else that we will discuss in the next few Cody entomology corners will be the winged insects.
(1h 17m 43s)
But that is, those are the basal, the beginning parts of how we get to insects from the world.
(1h 17m 53s)
Do you have any questions?
(1h 17m 53s) Al:
Well, well, no, my question was why insect and now you’ve you’ve described.
(1h 17m 59s) Codey:
I’ve, I’ve described why insect and I’ve, yeah.
(1h 18m 1s) Al:
And what insect and how insect?
(1h 18m 2s) Codey:
And what?
(1h 18m 3s)
And who insects?
(1h 18m 6s) Al:
And who is?
(1h 18m 6s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 18m 8s)
So again, if you have any questions about this, hit me up on the Slack.
(1h 18m 11s)
Uh, and next time, the next episode of Entomology Corner, we’ll go over, uh, some more, some winged insects.
(1h 18m 20s)
Oh, woo.
(1h 18m 22s) Al:
Nice.
(1h 18m 22s)
Woo!
(1h 18m 23s) Codey:
Okay.
(1h 18m 23s) Al:
Bugs, bugs, bugs.
Kabuto Park
(1h 18m 24s) Codey:
Bugs, bugs.
(1h 18m 26s)
Main topic is the game, Cabuto Park.
(1h 18m 29s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 18m 29s) Codey:
And you played this?
(1h 18m 30s) Al:
I played and finished this.
(1h 18m 32s) Codey:
I did too.
(1h 18m 33s) Al:
Yes, I have completed the game.
(1h 18m 36s)
Uh
(1h 18m 37s) Codey:
What are your main thoughts?
(1h 18m 39s) Al:
Yes, so, well, so I’ll start off with, um, I very quickly talked about this a few weeks ago, as you’re listening to this to Kevin in our what we’ve been up to.
(1h 18m 50s)
I just, all I did, it was yesterday the recording.
(1h 18m 53s)
All I said was I described the game as, uh, I think this is, if you, this feels like somebody got a very quick description of what Pokemon was and built the game.
(1h 19m 8s)
It’s as if somebody described Pokemon as you catch bugs and you make them fight. And someone made that game without any other knowledge about Pokemon.
(1h 19m 14s) Codey:
Yep.
(1h 19m 14s)
Yep Yep.
(1h 19m 18s) Al:
Uh, it’s fun. It’s a relatively short game, um, but that’s that’s no bad thing.
(1h 19m 19s) Codey:
Yep.
(1h 19m 25s) Al:
I enjoyed…
(1h 19m 29s)
I mean, I enjoy catching creatures.
(1h 19m 31s)
So why would I not enjoy that?
(1h 19m 32s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 19m 33s) Al:
And I think it did an interesting.
(1h 19m 35s)
I mean, we’ll get into the specifics of the fighting mechanics, but I thought that was different than how every other kind of creature collector that I’ve played has ever done.
(1h 19m 46s)
which feels like you have a lot of control over it even when you’re underleveled.
(1h 19m 47s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 19m 53s)
Yeah.
(1h 19m 53s) Al:
But we’ll get into that, I guess, when we get to it.
(1h 19m 55s)
Well, but your overall thoughts.
(1h 19m 56s) Codey:
You’re saying there’s a chance?
(1h 19m 57s) Al:
There’s a chance, there’s always a chance, yeah.
(1h 19m 59s)
What about your thoughts?
(1h 20m) Codey:
Yeah, my overall thoughts, I also really liked it.
(1h 20m 3s)
Um, I thought it was very charming and very cute.
(1h 20m 7s)
I liked that it doesn’t like make you go fast.
(1h 20m 12s)
Like it, it doesn’t make you go a certain speed, I guess, is just the period.
(1h 20m 16s) Al:
Mm-hmm.
(1h 20m 17s) Codey:
Like, you could stay.
(1h 20m 19s)
you could play like 5 hours in the 1st day.
(1h 20m 22s)
and just catch the bugs in the one area over and over and over again, if that was what you wanted to do.
(1h 20m 30s)
If you wanted to perchance get a shiny book.
(1h 20m 30s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 20m 33s)
Perchance.
(1h 20m 34s) Codey:
Um.
(1h 20m 34s) Al:
How many Chinese did you catch?
(1h 20m 36s) Codey:
I think three.
(1h 20m 37s) Al:
Oh, three.
(1h 20m 39s)
I only got two.
(1h 20m 40s) Codey:
I win.
(1h 20m 41s)
Um, but it was, and I won.
(1h 20m 42s) Al:
Was that a competition?
(1h 20m 46s) Codey:
Um, but it’s also a game that you’re able to play in a short amount of time and complete.
(1h 20m 52s)
I think I played it for like an hour before I got credits.
(1h 20m 55s)
But then you can also play it again, or you can go back through and try and like level up all your stuff a lot.
(1h 21m 3s)
Um, It kind of is what you make it, and which is the same as Pokemon, Pokemon is also kind of what you make it.
(1h 21m 8s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 21m 8s) Codey:
Um, So yeah.
(1h 21m 8s) Al:
What I liked particularly was it felt like everything tied together nicely, right?
(1h 21m 16s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 21m 16s) Al:
So you catch Pokemon.
(1h 21m 18s)
You catch bugs.
(1h 21m 21s) Codey:
You catch bug type Pokémon.
(1h 21m 24s) Al:
Yeah, goodness sake.
(1h 21m 25s)
You catch bugs, and then you can sell the bugs to get the stuff to, um, both, uh, level up your existing bugs and also buy some stuff and you levelled up your bugs to do battles.
(1h 21m 40s)
And when you did battles, you got money to buy some stuff and you buy stuff that allows you to get more bugs.
(1h 21m 44s)
So it’s like, it’s a really nice satisfying tertiary loop, if you will.
(1h 21m 49s)
Um, and, and that kind of, it doesn’t, I think possibly it would have some of the same grind issues as Pokemon did if you needed to get much higher level than you do, but I think the amount that it has is just the right amount where I never felt like I was going out of my way to grind in a way that I wasn’t enjoying, especially as I, because obviously I had to catch everything, right?
(1h 22m 16s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 22m 16s) Al:
I had to get one of everything at least.
(1h 22m 17s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 22m 18s) Al:
I didn’t get to the point where I was still catching bugs without having bugs that I needed to catch.
(1h 22m 27s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 22m 27s) Al:
So it was really well balanced, I felt, in that.
(1h 22m 30s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 22m 31s)
Yes, I agree.
(1h 22m 33s)
Um, okay, so the basic, what did you play this on?
(1h 22m 37s) Al:
I played on my handheld, my knotted.
(1h 22m 41s) Codey:
Okay.
(1h 22m 42s)
I played mine on Xbox Game Pass because it is free on Game Pass right now.
(1h 22m 49s) Al:
Yes, I also got it on Game Pass.
(1h 22m 50s) Codey:
Okay.
(1h 22m 51s)
Um, and then, so I just want…
(1h 22m 54s) Al:
Because I’m trying to play as many games as I can in my 3 months free game impacts.
(1h 22m 57s) Codey:
Oh yeah.
(1h 22m 58s)
There’s some there’s some good games on Game Pass.
(1h 23m) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 23m 1s) Codey:
I like them.
(1h 23m 1s)
Um.
(1h 23m 2s)
So the blurb on Steam is, quote, enjoy summer in Kabutza Park.
(1h 23m 8s)
Catch the cutest bugs, train them, and win the summer Beatle Battles championship in this tiny bug collection game.
(1h 23m 14s)
Upgrade your equipment to find rarer, stronger, and shinier little friends.
(1h 23m 18s)
Um, the, uh, it was released actually last year, May 28th of 2025, and the reviews are overwhelmingly positive, which I am not sure what you would have to say about this that’s negative.
(1h 23m 32s)
Um, it’s five.
(1h 23m 33s) Al:
Presumably the main thing would be that it’s short, right?
(1h 23m 36s)
Like if people want really long games that, that, I mean, I, I’m not that, I’ve dugged before that I want more shorter games and that’s why I particularly liked it being a good amount of space, but some people like really like.
(1h 23m 37s) Codey:
Sure.
(1h 23m 38s)
Yeah.
(1h 23m 49s)
Yeah.
(1h 23m 49s)
Um.
(1h 23m 51s) Al:
It’s no persona or uh, um, or Yakuza.
(1h 23m 56s) Codey:
It is only $5 on steam.
(1h 24m)
Um, yeah, it’s for, for what it, I think I played it for like 3, 3 or 3 hours total or something like that.
(1h 24m) Al:
Bargain.
(1h 24m 8s) Codey:
Um, So well worth the $5.
(1h 24m 13s)
I actually kind of wish that I.
(1h 24m 13s) Al:
It’s even on sale just now, although obviously it won’t be on sale by the time you hear this, but it’s on sale right now.
(1h 24m 17s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 24m 18s)
And it looks, it’s, it’s in a few different bundles.
(1h 24m 18s) Al:
30% off.
(1h 24m 22s) Codey:
So there’s, um, the, I love bugs bundle, um, that has bugaboo pocket and Kabuto park in it.
(1h 24m 30s)
There’s the, oh, and um, Budgie’s Bug Shop is also, I think, in that bundle.
(1h 24m 35s)
Um, There’s cute bug friends.
(1h 24m 38s)
So there’s a few different bundles that you could buy, um, that would save you money off on some bug games.
(1h 24m 46s) Al:
Apico was in the, I love…
(1h 24m 47s) Codey:
Oh, Apico.
(1h 24m 49s)
Okay.
(1h 24m 50s) Al:
Minute.
(1h 24m 54s) Codey:
And Froggy’s battle.
(1h 24m 56s)
And then we got Bug Tope.
(1h 24m 58s)
Wait, what is Bug Topia?
(1h 25m)
Oh, I guess it doesn’t matter because it’s Windows.
(1h 25m 2s)
Ble.
(1h 25m 3s)
Um, Yeah, so there’s a few different things that you could get.
(1h 25m 7s)
Um,
(1h 25m 8s)
But, yeah, so starting off, it says enjoy summer in Kabutza Park.
(1h 25m 15s)
It is summer.
(1h 25m 16s)
It is a single month.
(1h 25m 17s)
So the entire game takes place.
(1h 25m 20s)
I want to say in August.
(1h 25m 22s)
Um, you’re basically a kid at a summer camp. And you go and your friend, you meet, you meet someone and she tells you about it.
(1h 25m 31s)
She gives you like a basic net or something.
(1h 25m 33s)
Um, and then you, uh, she shows you kind of how to do everything and says that there’s this big championship, uh, collection tournament, um, or battle tournament, battle championship that you can do. So you have the, um, the few different places on the map that you unlock by increasing your boots.
(1h 25m 56s)
But you start off in the sunny farm.
(1h 25m 59s)
And I guess we can just talk about the catch mechanic now, because that’s the 1st part.
(1h 26m 3s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 26m 3s)
Yeah.
(1h 26m 4s)
I think I think the catch mechanic is really hard to explain without visuals, but if you play it, it’s incredibly easy to pick up.
(1h 26m 12s)
So like when you, so you start off with a bunch of areas that you can, you can choose to search for a bug within your, your specific area and then you get this little screen where it shows you what you’re trying to catch in a little bit and then it’s got a bar with a line moving left to right on that bar and on that bar is some area that’s red, some area that’s blue and some that is green.
(1h 26m 12s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(1h 26m 33s)
Mm-hmm.
(1h 26m 38s) Al:
And you have to time it so that you hit the green bit.
(1h 26m 38s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(1h 26m 42s) Al:
If you hit the red, you fail to catch.
(1h 26m 43s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(1h 26m 45s) Al:
If you hit the green you catch, and if you hit the blue, it does this thing where it’s like we need to get a bit closer and it changes and you get more of the green area.
(1h 26m 53s)
Which, certainly with the 1st early, early game bugs doesn’t really make much difference, but with some of the later game bugs, you kind of have to do the blue to actually get any amount of green that you can use to catch them.
(1h 27m 6s)
Um, I think it’s an interesting one, it’s obviously very live, right?
(1h 27m 14s)
Like it’s, it’s, you got to be good at timing and and that’s, you know, I enjoyed it, but I can see what, that some people might have an issue with that, right?
(1h 27m 17s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 27m 24s) Al:
Like it’s quite,
(1h 27m 26s)
I mean, I guess a lot of this game.
(1h 27m 27s)
You might be surprised if you just look at how it is, but a lot of this game, because the battles are the same.
(1h 27m 31s)
It’s very much real time.
(1h 27m 33s)
And so if you’re not good at the timing, then you might not be very…
(1h 27m 34s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 27m 37s)
Yeah, there is an, you do have a, um, an item you can buy in the shop that is called is honey that slows the movement of the bar within the, uh, of the lines within the bar down.
(1h 27m 44s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 27m 50s) Codey:
Um, and I’m wondering if there’s something in the uh, settings that allow you to make it easier.
(1h 27m 57s)
But, um, yeah, so it’s, it’s, and in depending on the rarity of the insect, the bars are smaller or more difficult to hit or whatever.
(1h 28m 8s) Al:
And sometimes they move.
(1h 28m 8s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(1h 28m 9s) Al:
Like sometimes they get bigger or smaller.
(1h 28m 14s) Codey:
Um, what I like is they’re all different.
(1h 28m 16s)
So like for each insect, they are different.
(1h 28m 20s)
Um, which was really cool because then you see, you’re like, oh, this is one of the dragonflies, so it’s going to be over on the ends of the bar or, oh, this is the mantis.
(1h 28m 32s)
So there’s like 3 different lines you can hit, like one that’s blue and 2 that are green or something like that.
(1h 28m 38s)
Um, And so I always would get the honey and then I would save it for the difficult ones.
(1h 28m 46s)
Um, after you catch, after you’ve successfully caught.
(1h 28m 50s)
So the areas that you can do, have 5 places you can search.
(1h 28m 54s)
And I think at 1st you can search, you can choose 3 of those places.
(1h 28m 57s) Al:
22 to start with.
(1h 28m 57s) Codey:
Okay, 22 of those places. And then as you upgrade one of your items, you can search more places.
(1h 29m 4s)
I think the magnifying glass.
(1h 29m 5s)
Um, And then eventually you can search all of the places.
(1h 29m 9s)
So then you’re just looking, you have the opportunity to catch 5 bugs at each site.
(1h 29m 15s)
After you have collected them, they go into your collection that you can look at and you can see what their stats are.
(1h 29m 22s)
So they do have uh, strength, defence, and I have no idea what the 3rd thing is. Um,
(1h 29m 27s) Al:
I also have no idea.
(1h 29m 29s)
I’d spent the entire game not knowing what it was.
(1h 29m 31s)
I think.
(1h 29m 33s) Codey:
Oh, energy maybe.
(1h 29m 34s) Al:
I think it might be about how quickly you gain the energy for the cards.
(1h 29m 39s) Codey:
That makes sense because it’s, it’s the letter N and then R and then G, which if you say that is energy.
(1h 29m 39s) Al:
Possibly.
(1h 29m 45s)
Yeah.
(1h 29m 46s)
But I think, I think that’s what, because that only came into play really at the end of the tournament where someone was actually changing how quickly they got that as well and I hadn’t really noticed anything up to that point, but I think that’s what it is.
(1h 29m 50s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 29m 59s)
Um, yes, but and then each bug also comes with cards, um, that are the cards that you will be able to use during the battle.
(1h 30m 10s)
Um…
(1h 30m 11s) Al:
Yeah, and specifically those cards, they’re they’re for changing how the battle works, right?
(1h 30m 17s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 30m 17s) Al:
So it’s kind of like, it’s kind of like a sumo battle where you’re, you spend some time pushing to try and push the other team out of the ring and then you have some time where the other team is pushing and you have to hold as much as you can.
(1h 30m 18s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 30m 33s) Al:
So you have, there you go.
(1h 30m 33s) Codey:
And it’s, Sorry.
(1h 30m 35s)
Uh, it’s based on the strength and the defence of the 3 insects that you choose.
(1h 30m 41s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 30m 41s) Codey:
To battle with.
(1h 30m 41s) Al:
But then the cards, they can do things like increase your strength, increase your defence, or they can knock back the team, you can push them, um, depend, which I think is also affected by your strength, because I’d noticed that when you have a higher strength, the pushback pushes them back further, I’m pretty sure, although there are different levels of pushback as well.
(1h 31m 3s)
And then there’s some other things as well.
(1h 31m 5s)
Like I mentioned, there’s one that increases how quickly you gain the energy because each card has a certain amount, a certain value, and you gain energy over time, and then when you use one, it reduces from it.
(1h 31m 18s)
So there’s like a bunch of other effects and stuff like that.
(1h 31m 18s) Codey:
Mm.
(1h 31m 22s) Al:
But the main ones would be increase, increase your defence or strength or reduce the other team’s defence or strength or do the kickback.
(1h 31m 32s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 31m 32s)
Um, you can favourite the insects so that you don’t sell them on accident.
(1h 31m 38s)
Um, you can sell them all for candy.
(1h 31m 43s)
So I think that what they say, they say it on the map.
(1h 31m 46s)
Um, So you can do the wildlife preservation.
(1h 31m 51s)
So you can sell bugs to the Beatle Park staff. And you get candy.
(1h 31m 56s)
Um, and that candy can then be used to uh, uh, level up your bugs.
(1h 32m 2s) Al:
Yeah, which I find a very funny idea is like here bugs eat the eat the candy.
(1h 32m 7s)
You’re going to grow up and be big and strong.
(1h 32m 10s) Codey:
Well, that’s in Pokemon Go, it’s candy, right?
(1h 32m 13s) Al:
Yeah, yeah, but these are like real bugs.
(1h 32m 16s)
I just love the idea of like feeding your live bugs candy to make them stronger.
(1h 32m 17s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 32m 21s)
Yeah.
(1h 32m 21s) Al:
It’s like, you’re giving, you’re giving your, uh, your praying mantas at sugar high.
(1h 32m 22s) Codey:
Some of them.
(1h 32m 28s) Al:
Also amused with the idea of like, yeah, you’re you’re trading bugs for candy, but then we’re actually going to do battles and then get real money for winning battles.
(1h 32m 34s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 32m 39s)
Yeah, get real money from the kids.
(1h 32m 39s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 32m 44s) Codey:
Yep.
(1h 32m 44s) Al:
Amusing.
(1h 32m 46s) Codey:
Um, depending on, I think your one of your items, your bugpedia, maybe? I don’t remember which one.
(1h 32m 56s)
But depending on, sorry, depending on one of your items, you can level the max level is a certain.
(1h 32m 57s) Al:
Well, depends what you’re talking about.
(1h 33m 3s)
I think I think that’s when you unlock new areas.
(1h 33m 7s) Codey:
Okay.
(1h 33m 7s)
Because like the max level at 1st you can only level them up to 10 and then you can level them up to like 15 and then 20 or something like that.
(1h 33m 15s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 33m 15s) Codey:
Um, and so it’s that there is that in that, like, if you’re going to the same area and collecting all the bugs and then you’ve collected everything and you’ve gotten enough candy from selling duplicates to be able to level up all of your bugs to the top max level, then there might not be as much of a reason.
(1h 33m 36s)
But there are some bugs that have benefits or like stars next to like their strength or their defence or their energy.
(1h 33m 44s)
So, which I’m assuming are just like, this is really good for that.
(1h 33m 47s)
So you can keep trying to catch bugs so that they have the best in as many of those categories as those stats as possible, but.
(1h 33m 56s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 33m 56s)
I think there’s also just certain bugs are just stronger as well.
(1h 33m 56s) Codey:
Um,
(1h 34m)
Yes.
(1h 34m) Al:
Right?
(1h 34m) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 34m) Al:
Like the bees tend to be pretty weak and the Beatles tend to be the strongest.
(1h 34m 4s) Codey:
Yeah, well, the Beatles have the best defence as well, I think.
(1h 34m 9s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 34m 9s) Codey:
Because they just can can be defensive.
(1h 34m 12s) Al:
Big boys.
(1h 34m 12s) Codey:
Big buzzed.
(1h 34m 13s) Al:
Big strong boy.
(1h 34m 14s) Codey:
Um, also part way during the month, there’s, uh, some bugs will be active in areas you’ve already, uh, completed, which I loved because that’s very true that, like, just because you’ve gone to one place and you feel like you’ve caught everything there, you could go back a week later and you’ll find new things.
(1h 34m 37s)
Like that’s in reality, that’s what happens.
(1h 34m 38s)
So I did really like that mechan- or that feature.
(1h 34m 41s)
Um, I think that’s collection.
(1h 34m 44s)
Oh, and then the fact that some of them can be shown.
(1h 34m 47s) Al:
Yes, let speaking of things that are realistic.
(1h 34m 50s)
At the end of August, the shinies are out.
(1h 34m 55s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 34m 58s)
So then you can just catch, like, it’s you’re more likely to catch all of those things.
(1h 35m 4s) Al:
Uh, so… absolutely not.
(1h 35m 5s) Codey:
Finish your shiny decks.
(1h 35m 9s) Al:
So I guess we should probably talk about the tournament as well then.
(1h 35m 12s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 35m 12s) Al:
So you, for some reason, everyone’s battling these bugs.
(1h 35m 18s)
It’s like a big thing.
(1h 35m 18s) Codey:
For for some reason, excuse me.
(1h 35m 20s)
We’re all catching bugs at summer camp.
(1h 35m 23s)
Come on now.
(1h 35m 24s) Al:
Yeah, but so what I’m not sure about is, is this a sanction, is the tournament a sanctioned activity then?
(1h 35m 24s) Codey:
And then you got to compare your bugs.
(1h 35m 30s) Al:
Because I didn’t feel like it was.
(1h 35m 32s)
It felt like it was like we’re going to do this outside of our normal activities, right?
(1h 35m 36s)
Like it’s not, the leaders aren’t like encouraging this.
(1h 35m 38s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 35m 39s)
No, I don’t think so.
(1h 35m 41s)
I think it’s very similar to like if all the kids brought their Pokemon cards and then every night you have a Pokemon battle.
(1h 35m 46s) Al:
Yes, exactly, exactly.
(1h 35m 47s)
Do you know what I just noticed?
(1h 35m 49s)
I dont know if you’ve noticed this.
(1h 35m 50s)
Have you noticed what the ring is?
(1h 35m 53s) Codey:
No.
(1h 35m 53s) Al:
It’s a tambourine.
(1h 35m 54s) Codey:
Oh my gosh.
(1h 35m 56s) Al:
I just noticed that the, the, there’s the skin on top with the, the, the, the nails and then you’ve got the, the, um, simple, whatever they’re called around the side.
(1h 35m 57s) Codey:
So people just used, yeah.
(1h 36m 4s)
Yeah.
(1h 36m 5s)
Yeah.
(1h 36m 7s) Al:
That’s hilarious.
(1h 36m 8s)
It’s just like someone’s picked up a tambourine from a band and put it down.
(1h 36m 11s) Codey:
This is like someone’s tamboo and they’re like, this is what our, our things are going to battle on.
(1h 36m 14s) Al:
So you’re doing your back alley fighting, uh, and um, there are, yeah, so there’s 31 opponents and you have to uh, you have to beat them all to win the game, basically.
(1h 36m 18s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 36m 19s)
You do one a day.
(1h 36m 29s) Al:
Um, and they get harder as you go.
(1h 36m 29s) Codey:
Yep.
(1h 36m 32s) Al:
And I mean, I certainly didn’t find it challenging to start with, but like though the last few battles I had to actually have some sort of strategy.
(1h 36m 41s)
Um, and basically the final battle, I had to have the same strategy as the person in the final battle to win, which uh, which was reduced the cost of knockbacks and then the card that adds more knockback cards into your hand.
(1h 36m 47s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 36m 51s)
Yep.
(1h 36m 56s) Al:
So you just end up knocking them back all the time.
(1h 36m 59s)
Because I could not.
(1h 36m 59s) Codey:
Yep.
(1h 37m) Al:
I tried like 10 times to defeat them on 3 level 20s before I even bothered doing that.
(1h 37m 3s) Codey:
Really?
(1h 37m 5s)
Oh my gosh.
(1h 37m 7s)
I never lost a battle.
(1h 37m 9s) Al:
It was only that.
(1h 37m 10s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 37m 10s) Al:
It was only that that I lost.
(1h 37m 11s) Codey:
She was pretty, I was, I was sweating that one for sure.
(1h 37m 15s)
That one was uh, not fun.
(1h 37m 18s) Al:
So did you manage that without doing the, the, the extra knockback card?
(1h 37m 22s) Codey:
Um, I did, I think I had like 2 or 3 cards that I had to use.
(1h 37m 26s)
For most of my battles, though.
(1h 37m 28s)
I didn’t even have to use a card.
(1h 37m 29s)
My bugs were just like, get off the tambourine, basically.
(1h 37m 32s)
They just shoved so hard.
(1h 37m 35s) Al:
Let me guess then, you just spent most of your time catching as many bugs as possible and levelling off.
(1h 37m 41s) Codey:
Yes.
(1h 37m 41s)
I only ever played, like, I only ever battled after I levelled everything to the max level, like all of the bugs that I wanted to battle with.
(1h 37m 42s) Al:
Makes sense.
(1h 37m 51s)
Okay, yeah, I see then.
(1h 37m 52s)
I see you then.
(1h 37m 55s) Codey:
So all of my bugs were maxed.
(1h 37m 57s)
Well, then because then it was like, oh, you have a 2 level 4 or 3 level 4 things.
(1h 38m 2s)
That’s cute.
(1h 38m 3s)
Minor level 10.
(1h 38m 4s)
Um, yeah.
(1h 38m 7s)
So I guess I could play it again and not do that.
(1h 38m 9s)
And then have to play the card game part of it.
(1h 38m 13s)
Because I didn’t, I really didn’t have to do much with the cards, except for the last one.
(1h 38m 19s)
Um, yeah, it’s it’s just soon.
(1h 38m 19s) Al:
Yeah, fair.
(1h 38m 23s) Codey:
Well, sumo slash, I also think of like tug of war or whatever, how you have to tug something over a line.
(1h 38m 30s) Al:
Yeah, I mean, it’s the opposite of that.
(1h 38m 32s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 38m 32s)
Um, so you’re trying to push them off and then you, you push your opponent off or they push you off and then, uh, you get money and then it, if you win, you get money and it progresses to the next day.
(1h 38m 45s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 38m 46s)
And that’s how you get more…
(1h 38m 50s)
By both, buying the boots to go to other areas, uh, buying the bug journal to make it easy, more likely to see rarer bugs and obviously some of them.
(1h 39m 3s)
Like half the month.
(1h 39m 6s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 39m 7s)
But that.
(1h 39m 7s) Al:
Yeah, I think it’s, I think it’s really fun.
(1h 39m 9s)
I think it’s a really nicely balanced game.
(1h 39m 11s)
It’s fun.
(1h 39m 12s)
The graphics are really nice, kind of fun, whimsical drawing.
(1h 39m 16s)
The.
(1h 39m 18s)
I mean, a lot of the characters are pretty generic, but there were some that felt a little bit more pretty sure one of them was hitting on me, which is a little bit weird when their kids.
(1h 39m 26s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 39m 27s)
One of them was named Ash.
(1h 39m 30s)
So like they’re, they are not, I mean, there were multiple things where I was like, oh, they’re, they’re aware that they are, that they’re Pokemon basically knockoffs or whatever, but like still very good.
(1h 39m 30s) Al:
Oh I missed that.
(1h 39m 39s)
Yeah.
(1h 39m 42s) Codey:
Yeah, one of them was named Ash.
(1h 39m 44s)
I think a couple of the other ones had some really silly names, but I can’t remember them off the top of my head, but it was good.
(1h 39m 50s)
There’s definitely one hitting.
(1h 39m 51s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 39m 52s) Codey:
I mean, it’s a, you are a kid and their kids.
(1h 39m 55s)
You’ve never had a childhood crush that you hit on as a as an elementary school student.
(1h 40m) Al:
I’m not saying I haven’t.
(1h 40m 2s)
But I’m an adult playing this game.
(1h 40m 4s)
That’s that’s all, you know, it just, like, I think also the thing is it also felt like they pushed it a little bit further.
(1h 40m 5s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 40m 12s) Al:
It was like the 1st time it was like, oh, okay, yeah, sure, fine.
(1h 40m 16s)
That’s that’s cute, whatever.
(1h 40m 16s) Codey:
Mm-hmm.
(1h 40m 17s) Al:
And then the other one was like, oh, yeah, you really are cute.
(1h 40m 21s) Codey:
No, yeah, she was right.
(1h 40m 22s) Al:
Boy.
(1h 40m 22s) Codey:
Like…
(1h 40m 23s)
Yeah.
(1h 40m 25s) Al:
One thing I’m confused about, and this has nothing to do with the game.
(1h 40m 28s)
Um, see on Game Pass.
(1h 40m 29s) Codey:
Okay.
(1h 40m 31s) Al:
How can you view the achievements you don’t have?
(1h 40m 33s) Codey:
I don’t know.
(1h 40m 34s) Al:
Because I can only see the achievements I do have, and apparently there’s 3 I’m missing.
(1h 40m 38s) Codey:
Are you doing this with, uh,
(1h 40m 41s) Al:
The Xbox app.
(1h 40m 41s) Codey:
Oh, an app.
(1h 40m 42s) Al:
Just the Xbox, the, well, how do you run your Game Pass game?
(1h 40m 48s) Codey:
On my one, my Xbox one.
(1h 40m 51s) Al:
Okay, I mean, that, okay, fine.
(1h 40m 55s) Codey:
Or Xbox S maybe?
(1h 40m 56s)
I don’t remember what it is, but.
(1h 40m 57s) Al:
It doesn’t that doesn’t matter.
(1h 40m 59s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 40m 59s) Al:
Because it shows me, I’ve got 18 out of 21 and I can see all the ones I’ve already got, but there’s no like ones you don’t have list.
(1h 41m 6s) Codey:
Is there?
(1h 41m 6s) Al:
Oh, there they are.
(1h 41m 7s)
I found them.
(1h 41m 8s)
I found them. Win a battle with fewer bugs than your opponent.
(1h 41m 12s) Codey:
Oh, dang.
(1h 41m 12s) Al:
Do a really strong knockback.
(1h 41m 15s)
Did I not do that?
(1h 41m 16s)
And win a battle with 3 of the same bug in your team?
(1h 41m 19s)
Those 2 will be pretty easy because uh…
(1h 41m 22s) Codey:
I didn’t even think about achievements.
(1h 41m 23s)
I could totally.
(1h 41m 25s)
Like it would be fun to get the achievements again.
(1h 41m 27s)
Oh, I love how they say in the thing, expect 2 to 4 hours of serene bug catching, exciting battles and summer vibes.
(1h 41m 34s)
Can confirm.
(1h 41m 35s) Al:
Yeah, yeah, no lies there.
(1h 41m 39s) Codey:
Like I’d, I’d be down to, yeah, like this is a game.
(1h 41m 42s)
dip back into at some point.
(1h 41m 44s)
Um, just to relive it.
(1h 41m 46s) Al:
It does feel like this, this is not going to be for me because it’s not my sort of thing replaying, but I could absolutely see someone uh, trying to, you know, speed run it or try and be the most efficient they can, something like that I could do.
(1h 41m 59s) Codey:
Oh yeah.
(1h 42m 4s)
Cool, any final thoughts on the game? or who would you recommend it to?
(1h 42m 8s) Al:
I mean, if you like creature collectors, this is a good creature collector, right?
(1h 42m 11s) Codey:
Yep.
(1h 42m 11s) Al:
Like the, I don’t think there’s much more to be said about that.
(1h 42m 16s) Codey:
You like bugs or like supporting small developers that make very affordable games?
(1h 42m 22s)
Very cute, very good.
(1h 42m 24s)
Very worth.
(1h 42m 25s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 42m 25s) Codey:
I enjoyed it as an entomologist.
(1h 42m 28s)
Uh, it was very nothing was like too like wild where I was like, this is not realistic.
(1h 42m 28s) Al:
Agreed.
(1h 42m 34s) Codey:
Um, and I like the choice of bugs that they, the variety they provided.
(1h 42m 40s)
So, ooh, kabuto park.
(1h 42m 40s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 42m 41s)
Cool.
(1h 42m 42s)
Woo.
(1h 42m 43s) Codey:
Al, do you have anything to share with the audience?
Outro
(1h 42m 48s) Al:
Bugs.
(1h 42m 48s) Codey:
Ughs.
(1h 42m 49s)
Okay, cool.
(1h 42m 51s)
Um, yeah, pretty much the same.
(1h 42m 54s)
Uh, you can find the podcast on Tumblr and Blue Sky at THS pod.
(1h 42m 59s)
You can find all of our feedbacks and links to the show notes and transcripts and all of that at harvestseason.club.
(1h 43m 6s)
There you will also find a link to the Patreon, Patreon.com slash JHS pod, where you can support the show.
(1h 43m 12s)
Uh, ask for certain episodes or bully Al into doing certain games like I have done.
(1h 43m 18s)
Um, and ask other questions.
(1h 43m 22s)
We also just have really good conversations about previous episodes.
(1h 43m 25s)
You also get access to the greenhouse, where we talk about non-cozy game stuff.
(1h 43m 31s)
Um, we have multiple greenhouses that need to be done right now that I have lined up.
(1h 43m 37s)
Uh, We just don’t.
(1h 43m 37s) Al:
Don’t we always?
(1h 43m 39s) Codey:
Yeah, we just don’t like haven’t made the time, I guess, is the big thing.
(1h 43m 43s) Al:
Yeah.
(1h 43m 44s) Codey:
Um, but if you have any suggestions for greenhouse episodes, let us know, because some of them could be done very easily and very quickly versus some other ones like, like I want to do one on Little House of the Prairie, but I kind of want to finish Little House of the Prairie 1st so that I can talk about it in a more informed state.
(1h 44m 4s)
Um, there’s also one on Bluey.
(1h 44m 6s)
I feel like I want to rewatch all of Bluey before we have the Bluey episode.
(1h 44m 10s) Al:
I think I’ve watched it enough.
(1h 44m 12s) Codey:
I’ve only done one watch through, so I feel like I need it.
(1h 44m 17s) Al:
I think I’m up for watches of it.
(1h 44m 20s) Codey:
Yeah.
(1h 44m 20s) Al:
Craig really likes Bluey, so every so often we rewatch everything again.
(1h 44m 24s) Codey:
Good.
(1h 44m 24s)
Lou is great.
(1h 44m 26s)
Good, good, good choice, Craig.
(1h 44m 29s)
Well, thank you, Al, for joining me for the 1st episode of Bug Month.
(1h 44m 33s) Al:
Thank you for having me, Cody.
(1h 44m 33s) Codey:
Yes, of course.
(1h 44m 35s)
Thank you listeners for listening, and until next time.
(1h 44m 38s) Al:
Have a good harvest.
(1h 44m 38s) Codey:
Have a good harvest.
(1h 44m 40s)
Have a good, good catch bug.
(1h 44m 41s) Al:
Bug bug your catches.
(1h 44m 45s) Theme Tune:
The harvest season is created by Al McKinley with support from our patrons, including our pro farmers, Kevin Stewart and Elisa.
(1h 44m 53s)
Our art is done by Mike the Brave, and our music is done by Nick Burgess.
(1h 44m 58s)
Feel free to visit our website, harvestseason.club for show notes and links to things we discussed in this episode.
(1h 45m 13s) Codey:
I am on time dot is.
(1h 45m 20s) Al:
Yep, I’m up.
(1h 45m 21s) Codey:
One Mississippi 2 okay.
(1h 45m 24s) Al:
It literally was.
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